Radeon X1900 will be released in Q1 of next year?

[Unknown Soldier]

Haven't seen this posted .. sooo

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Close partner of ATI said ATI will release a brand new video card to replace X1800XT. X1800 will be a half-year-old king. The card that will be replacing X1800XT is the famous R580. Its internal name is now X1900. It is Pin-to-Pin competiable with the X1800XT PCB. The engineering sample uses the identical cooling as the X1800XT. Its competitor will be nVidia Geforce G71, a new gen 90nm core. Seems like the Q1 of next year will be an interesting year as the war btw ATI & nVidia heats up.

Futhermore, a cheaper version of ATI Radeon X1300, RV505, will also be released Q1 of 2006 to fight against nVidia G72. RV505 is about the same as RV515, the only difference would be the 80nm process which makes it even cheaper. Same idea as RV380 vs RV370 of last gen.

The close partner of ATI also stated that graphics cards will break the record price. The highest card now is US$649, quite a lot higher than last year's 499. However, graphics card in 2007 will be as expensive as a CPU (~US$1000)

Source: HKEPC

 

[MulciberXP]

I think this pace is crazy considering the year and a half of stagnation after the nv40 and r420 were released.

 

[Skrying]

The R580 and G71 battle is not going to be Q1 of 2006. In fact, the recent report of Nvidia's timeline throws everything anyone speculated about G71 and G80 for that matter out of the freaking window.

R580 Q1 2006, G71 late second half of 2006. Where does that put G80? Q1 or 2007 or possible even later? What about R600? Seems both ATi and Nvidia have sightly agreed to push back the R600/G80 and duke it out in the refresh wars, ATi earlier this time though.

 

[BByte]

The R580 and G71 battle is not going to be Q1 of 2006. In fact, the recent report of Nvidia's timeline throws everything anyone speculated about G71 and G80 for that matter out of the freaking window.

If you're referring to this one from Tom's, it was misinterpreted:
http://www.tgdaily.com/2005/12/07/nvidia_g80/

Wording is confusing, but it clearly says G71 in H1 2006. The touted 7800 successor would then be G80 and arrive sometime in the second half of 2006.

 

[Skrying]

You have official word on that? The wording to me is rather clear that G71 is the successor of the 7800 (why wouldnt they use G70 if they meant G80?) and would arrive later in 2006. Also, with the conclusion you propose then why have the sentence about extending the G7x series at all?

 

[ANova]

The G71 is slated for a February release with the R580 in January. Yup, ATI will probably beat nvidia to the market this time around.

 

[Skrying]

The G71 is slated for a February release with the R580 in January. Yup, ATI will probably beat nvidia to the market this time around.

You get your information from where?

 

[ANova]

You get your information from where?

Various places combined with deductive reasoning.

 

[suryad]

*sniff* all this new hardware.....these are tears of joy...

 

[Sunrise]

That (news) is quite old, already posted here: http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?p=644911#post644911

 

[trinibwoy]

The R580 and G71 battle is not going to be Q1 of 2006. In fact, the recent report of Nvidia's timeline throws everything anyone speculated about G71 and G80 for that matter out of the freaking window.

Wasn't it already pointed out to you in another thread that you misread Tom's report?

Nvidia provided some updates on its near-term product strategy at a conference with financial analysts. While the first half of next year will focus on introducing updates for the current GeForce 7 generation - including the 90 nm model G71 with up to 750 MHz core clock and the entry-level chips G72 and G73 - the successor of the 7800 will be commercially available sometime in the second half of 2006.

Not surprisingly, G80 will be tailored to run with Windows Vista and its Aero Glass functionality. The new graphics processor will transition to DirectX 10 and support Shader Model 4.0, Nvidia said. It was indicated that the current G7x generation will be available for some time, serving the entry-level and mainstream segment. G80 promises to bring a completely new processor architecture.

The bolded bits are each referring to different products. The first one is the G71 in the first half of 06, the "successor" in the second bit refers to the G80. Not sure how you could read that any other way.

Or do you think "introduce" in the first paragraph means "launch" with it being "commercially available in the second half of '06. That would be quite a stretch.

 

[Megadrive1988]

The R580 and G71 battle is not going to be Q1 of 2006. In fact, the recent report of Nvidia's timeline throws everything anyone speculated about G71 and G80 for that matter out of the freaking window.

R580 Q1 2006, G71 late second half of 2006. Where does that put G80? Q1 or 2007 or possible even later? What about R600? Seems both ATi and Nvidia have sightly agreed to push back the R600/G80 and duke it out in the refresh wars, ATi earlier this time though.

that makes no sense whatsoever. source ?

 

[Skrying]

that makes no sense whatsoever. source ?

The link above posted by someone else. I know it doesnt make sense, and neither does the article about it. As said about, I've been proved wrong... or so people say. I say the paper is so vague that you cant tell at all.

 

[elroy]

That article from Tom's quite clearly states that G71 will be H1 2006.

 

[doob]

.oO(If only games reached the market as fast and "improved" as another card launch)

/me wakes up and forgets what he dreamt... \o/ uuuh...

 

[Moloch]

.oO(If only games reached the market as fast and "improved" as another card launch)

/me wakes up and forgets what he dreamt... \o/ uuuh...

Well games that are out right now you just get to crank up the res and fsaa
If they released games right now that really taxed the 7800 and X1800 shader wise you would be have to run at lower res
So really imo this gen isn't that exciting.
The R580 should be interesting though, but R600 or whatever and NV50 should really interesting.

 

[Ailuros]

Games like FEAR or CoD2 at maximum details are barely playable on today's high end GPUs, unless we'd be talking about multi-GPU setups.

I wouldn't call those 24 to 31 fps usually recorded for Fear in 1600*1200/4xAA/16xAF actuallly playable.