Radeon 9500 where is it?
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Philibob said:
True. Yet that still doesn't change the fact that whatever the compliance, today's and upcoming dx9 cards have the muscle to perform a lot more computational tasks and with times higher performance than ultra budget dx7 compliant sollutions.
If someone today wants a vpu that can run most applications in insanely high resolutions with FSAA and anisotropic enabled, then a R300 has it's purpose there. Of course does it come at an accordingly high price, but what you pay is what you get.
The price drop isn't exactly just a simple price drop, but also a reduction in delivered features most of the time.
I also noticed a LOT of the GF4 Ti4600's selling for retail $229 US or less, compared to the retail $399 price tag they had a few months ago... I then also noticed there is no TV-IN/Capture, different tv-decoder chip and the like. Basically, these are scaled down Ti4600's which are better suited for gamers that arent after an AIW-style card.
NVidia still holds quite a bargaining chip for AIW/Video in-out capture/tuner cards. Even at $399 retail for a TI4600 with all this functionality competes well with the $499 Radeon 9700 AIW.
Sharkfood said:
ok I thought it was a rather steep price drop. I hadnt done any feature compariosns though, so missed that. TBH it ssuits me as TV-in/Capture etc is not what I'm after. My PC is on the other side of the house from the TV so even TV-Out is not used by me. I have firewire for Digicam capture.
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Randell said:
The difference was that the GF3 shipped about 6 months after DX8 was released and cost $400, whereas the 9500s are shipping before DX9 is released and should cost about half that price. I can't remember how the original GeForce lined up with DX7, that's going back a few years...[/u]
Hyper ZIII & new memory controller
In my opinion 9500 is a replacement of 8500 at a lower price
with better features. Just think ... Better memory controller with better HyperZ techniques (early z detect etc.) and new features (not dx9 specifically) like better anisotropic filtering , MSAA and FULLSTREAM. DX9 compliance and TRUFORM 2. To top it all it will debut at $179 retail which means even lower online prices (and price directly competing with ti4200). I think the price to performance ratio offered by this card is PHENOMENAL.
just my 2 cents.
In my opinion 9500 is a replacement of 8500 at a lower price
with better features. Just think ... Better memory controller with better HyperZ techniques (early z detect etc.) and new features (not dx9 specifically) like better anisotropic filtering , MSAA and FULLSTREAM. DX9 compliance and TRUFORM 2. To top it all it will debut at $179 retail which means even lower online prices (and price directly competing with ti4200). I think the price to performance ratio offered by this card is PHENOMENAL.just my 2 cents.
Re: Hyper ZIII & new memory controller
You havent seen any real in depth benchmarks yet have you? So its too early to make that call.
sabeehali said:To top it all it will debut at $179 retail which means even lower online prices (and price directly competing with ti4200). I think the price to performance ratio offered by this card is PHENOMENAL.
just my 2 cents.
You havent seen any real in depth benchmarks yet have you? So its too early to make that call.
Sharkfood said:
Are you suggesting that the TV capture chip costs $150, because that's pretty ridiculous. Anyway for the vast majority of people buying a GF4 Ti4600 those features are just useless crap. If you need an AIW card you'll know it and likely get an AIW (sorry but Nvidia's offerings just don't cut it in this area). The only reason I could see anyone buying a GF4 Ti4600 is to play games.
Re: Hyper ZIII & new memory controller
You are right its too early to make that call but judging from the performance of 9000pro without any of the enhancements that I talked about 9500 should be better or atleast on par with 4200 shouldn't it?
Randell said:sabeehali said:To top it all it will debut at $179 retail which means even lower online prices (and price directly competing with ti4200). I think the price to performance ratio offered by this card is PHENOMENAL.
just my 2 cents.
You havent seen any real in depth benchmarks yet have you? So its too early to make that call.
You are right its too early to make that call but judging from the performance of 9000pro without any of the enhancements that I talked about 9500 should be better or atleast on par with 4200 shouldn't it?
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AFAIK these are not 'actual' cards, but Radeon 9700's with half the 256bit bus removed, thats why they only have access to 64MB of memory.
Well, I know this is hard to believe, but [H]OPC has a much better review of the 9500 than Anand.... seems a bit more objective ( or a bit more ATI / a bit less nVidia slanted!)
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Mzc0
I think this gives a better idea of just where the "sweet spot" is on the 9500 PRO. Anand's seems to try very hard to make the 9500PRO look bad, I think.
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Mzc0
I think this gives a better idea of just where the "sweet spot" is on the 9500 PRO. Anand's seems to try very hard to make the 9500PRO look bad, I think.
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