Radeon 9500 where is it?
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Patience...
Ascended Saiyan
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Most announcements are usually on a Monday..........
Wouldn't suprise me if it showed up tomorrow.
Wouldn't suprise me if it showed up tomorrow.
As for where it is, ATI is probably working on building up inventory. If it is indeed a "castrated" Radeon 9700, it may be a challenge for ATI to get enough chips to make the 9500 cost-effective.
Note that this could be a good thing or a bad thing for ATI. If the yields on the 9700 are higher than expected, ATI may have decided to just move more 9700's than release the 9500 early. If the yields were worse than expected, then it means that of those that are failing to be good enough for a 9700, not enough are good enough to be a 9500.
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Of course, there could be other concerns, too, such as market issues.
Note that this could be a good thing or a bad thing for ATI. If the yields on the 9700 are higher than expected, ATI may have decided to just move more 9700's than release the 9500 early. If the yields were worse than expected, then it means that of those that are failing to be good enough for a 9700, not enough are good enough to be a 9500.
Update:
Of course, there could be other concerns, too, such as market issues.
Brent: Any hints? 
The 9500 looks like the card to ahve for many of us. The pro might be worthwhile too, probably depends on the street price that they hit. It'll be interesting to see how the two cards compare in things other than 3dmark, and especially how they compare after AA/AF have been applied.
Nite_Hawk
The 9500 looks like the card to ahve for many of us. The pro might be worthwhile too, probably depends on the street price that they hit. It'll be interesting to see how the two cards compare in things other than 3dmark, and especially how they compare after AA/AF have been applied.
Nite_Hawk
At the moment DX9 it nothing more than a marketting gimmick (until DX9 contnet becomes available). Practical benefits will come in if you want to run FSAA and/or Aniso. A comparison between 9500's and GF4 4200-4600 might be interesting here.
Exactly what I was driving at Dave. I want to see 10x7 4xAA/8x Trilinear AF comparisons and 10x7 6xAA/16x benchmarks. Then I just need to hold out for NV30. I'm hoping nVidia will do a top to bottom range like they did with NV25 rather than just a flagship product like the Gf3.
You know you hear that all the time from some: You don't need a a 9XXX series product or a DirectX 9 product but it depends on how you define don't need
I think the four vertex shaders enhance titles from UT:2003 to Dungeon Siege and many others.
I think the added bandwith created by the bandwith saving features of the product enhance many titles.
I think the ability to add many samples of anisotrophy and edge AA to a high resolution is a huge advantage and enhance many titles.
Not only does a new generation allow for new cutting-edge features but allows older titles and existing titles to look and perform better than ever before.
It depends how each person defines don't need. I'll tell you this: I needed a product like this and glad a product like this was offered.
I think the four vertex shaders enhance titles from UT:2003 to Dungeon Siege and many others.
I think the added bandwith created by the bandwith saving features of the product enhance many titles.
I think the ability to add many samples of anisotrophy and edge AA to a high resolution is a huge advantage and enhance many titles.
Not only does a new generation allow for new cutting-edge features but allows older titles and existing titles to look and perform better than ever before.
It depends how each person defines don't need. I'll tell you this: I needed a product like this and glad a product like this was offered.
Key sentence right there Randell. Despite compliance, R300/NV30 class cards have adequate fillrate/bandwidth for current dx7+ and upcoming dx8 games.
In retrospect we need budget dx8.1 compliant cards (see 9000/9000PRO), where the only logical stepup is that their high end brothers will be dx9 compliant.
I doubt anyone believes that 4 pipelines and <9GB/s bandwidth will be adequate for real future dx9 games...
Found this link at [H]. Not much information that we haven't already heard, but a seemingly firm launch date and a nice photo of the box though!!
http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/video_cards/gigabyte_r9500/1.php
http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/video_cards/gigabyte_r9500/1.php
GraphixViolence
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DX9 support is kind of a chicken-and-egg thing. No game developer will implement DX9 features if there aren't any graphics cards on the market that support them. However, if DX9 cards ARE available, and people don't buy them because they think DX8 cards are "good enough", then there will never be any progress.
That's the good thing about the Radeon 9700 (and hopefully the 9500 too)... they give you enough performance to make it a worthwhile upgrade, but they also slip in DX9 support so that developers will have something to code for in next year's games.
That's the good thing about the Radeon 9700 (and hopefully the 9500 too)... they give you enough performance to make it a worthwhile upgrade, but they also slip in DX9 support so that developers will have something to code for in next year's games.
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