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Bad_Boy said:
Of course you wont see them as the bit tech photographs are not from that lan party event, they are from GENEVA in europe at that launch event.
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Of course you wont see them as the bit tech photographs are not from that lan party event, they are from GENEVA in europe at that launch event.
BruteForce170
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Kombatant said:
well, could be spot on, but there's a perfect example....
nv40 doesn't "seem" impressive, it is impressive.
it doesn't "seem" impressive vs previous gen. parts, it is impressive.
and while r420 certainly may be as fast or faster, the nv40 is still impressive, as will the r420 be..
i'll wait until r420 announcements are made before i buy a card (and for the first time in a long time i think i will get one at release), but there's nothing you can take away from nv40 right now; it's impressive in the performance leap from last gen products, and it's the fastest thing out there right now by a long shot - on new architecture and beta drivers.
it's obvious nv took things much more seriously this time around, and it would be logical to assume on new parts with beta drivers there will be room for improvement. i sincerely doubt nv will be happy being the fastest for just 2 weeks. frankly, i expect good product from both companies.. but time will tell.
Doomtrooper
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The Nv40 is impressive like the Voodoo 6000 was impressive..depends on how far a IHV is willing to go to claim top performance numbers...but is it practical.
Natoma said:
Yes I saw a story on yahoo which had the 6800U being available 45 days from launch. The only rumors I have heard of the X800 cards is that they would be readily available at launch. I suppose we will find out soon enough.
At the bottom of this article it says availability. Same release that I saw at yahoo a few days ago.
Bad_Boy said:
What I found quite amusing though watching that event video, the CEO from Crytek stated that you can pull off those extra instructions within the MOD with either PS2.0 or 3.0. So does this mean that current cards would be able to display that graphics quality (but with certain speed loss). Or was the guy mistaken? I don't think he was mistaken, he should know his own technology well enough, and he stated it several times.
He talks about Volumetric Shadows and Soft Shadows, and how they are only possible with Shader 2.0 or 3.0, he also talks about using Per-pixel specular Phong Shading on the beach, which can only be done with Shaders 2.0 or 3.0. The interior shot he also talks about the Displacement Mapping used for the walls to make the rocks look like they are extruded, those can also be done with shaders 2.0 and 3.0.
Now, what does this all mean for FarCry? Is it that all 2.0 cards will be able to do those same effects by using that MOD (allbeit with speed loss) and the R420 should be able to do it perfectly fine assuming it has 2x 3xx speed. So assuming what the CEO said is correct, those extra effects should work fine enough within the game and the R420, and would this be the same for other games which have or are patched with PS3.0 features.
or am i just assuming too much?
Bjorn said:
The last story I read was that the X800 Pro would launch on the 4th and be in stores a week or two later, and the X800XT would launch around the 23rd and be in stores the very day or a couple of days later. Considering we're only a couple of weeks away from those dates, I tend to believe they're accurate.
Doomtrooper said:
Err, no. Voodoo 6000 offered no new important features, just performance. Both the R420 and NV40 doubled their pipelines and ram bandwidth, NV40 doubled # of shader units per pipe, increased precision to FP32, added 3.0 VS and PS support, vertex texturing, and a programmable video processor for Hi-Def video.
This is more than the simplistic "non-elegant" brutish brush you are attempting to paint NV40 as. Both ATI and NVidia are "going far" to claim top performance, if the X800XT specs are any evidence.
I expect R420 will also have 2x shader units per pipe (they already have 2 ALUs in there, just just need to beef up the "pre-ALU" into a full parallel ALU capable of dual-issue)
AlphaWolf said:
Nice. Then I suppose my question/comment is, wtf is everyone talking about "Oh I'm going to get NV40 muahahaha blah blah blah." I mean good grief it's not available, won't be available for over a month, and when it is available, we'll know what the X800 Pro/X800XT will do, and might even have those ATI cards in retail first.
Sigh. I just
away at the fanboyism sometimes........Natoma said:Then I suppose my question/comment is, wtf is everyone talking about "Oh I'm going to get NV40 muahahaha blah blah blah." I mean good grief it's not available, won't be available for over a month, and when it is available, we'll know what the X800 Pro/X800XT will do, and might even have those ATI cards in retail first.
Sigh. I just
Have you been over to the NVNews forums too much lately or ?
Cause i don't see that many people here that have already made up their mind.
