I have that problem too, what you can do however is legally make a backup copy of anything media you own, so what you could do is copy it onto another DVD but remove the trailers and FBI/copyright warning crapola. You'll probably ask, 'why bother?" To which I'd say, if it's a movie that's one of your favourites you watch fairly often, then it'd definitely be worth thinking about, to get rid of those little annoyances.
PS3 multimedia features confirmed.
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I have that problem too, what you can do however is legally make a backup copy of anything media you own, so what you could do is copy it onto another DVD but remove the trailers and FBI/copyright warning crapola. You'll probably ask, 'why bother?" To which I'd say, if it's a movie that's one of your favourites you watch fairly often, then it'd definitely be worth thinking about, to get rid of those little annoyances.
Yeah, I'm an official member of the standards committee. What's with the attitude?
Other unnamed systems? Can't be the Xbox 360, since that has a full blown media center extender in it and can play movies off the HDD.
Since we only have one other current gen system on the market, calling it a "standard" is a bit misleading. I positioned it directly as a "minimum" bar. And yes, I think ripping CDs and playing back movies is a minimum. And no, I don't think we've seen the full set of features yet; I was actually making more of a statement about this thread, given that we haven't really learned anything (other than startup times?).
I'm a bit surprised IGN (or is it famitsu?) describes both system startup and BR movie playback as taking less than 10 seconds, which according to them is 'fast'.
I guess you people could call me impatient...but upwards of 10 seconds isn't fast, okay? MS advertises vista hibernates in less time than that.I also hope they'll make it so I can pop in a movie disc and just have the console play the movie without having to press any buttons or anything, otherwise I'll be a little annoyed. I mean, I'm not inserting a movie disc because I just want to see the console gobble it up through its mailslot.
Hopefully they'll smooth out the bumps and straighten any kinks before (european) release, heh.
Less than 10 seconds definetely isnt slow. You cant wait less than 10 seconds? Thats good news that it takes only that.
I would say a summary of what we know so far, or for the most part the newer details we've gotten recently, might look something like this..
- Blu-ray/DVD/CD/SACD playback (obviously)
- Video file playback (up to 1080p)
- Audio output up to 7.1ch 192KHz Linear PCM
- MP3/ATRAC/AAC support, ripping up to 352 kbps
- External device support for media storage/playback - PSP (others? USB HDDs?)
- Photo browsing - some swish slideshows, music playback
- Flash support (web browser)
All mostly expected, for sure, given what we knew before. There's things we don't yet know about, though like generic storage device support as i questioned-marked above, and like the 'remote play' feature for the PSP and its potential as a media server for the PSP. We also don't know the full detail of some of these things listed above. And also, of course, there's the great big shadow of Linux extensibility looming over all of this..
I've my fingers crossed Sony will put up a guide to their OS online at some point, highlighting all the functionality, multimedia and otherwise. That'd be nice.
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True, but I knew you'd say that.Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't playback video from the 360 HDD that wasn't downloaded from Live. Seems you may need to lower your minimum bar
If you want to play movies from the hard drive (a feature why?), then yeah, the 360 doesn't do it. Then again, the 360 has the media center extender, which is useful because:
How does content get from point a to point b, where b in this case is the console? The PS3--as far as we have confirmed--requires using a computer to get the media first, then transfering it to the console to play (or downloading it off a PS3 video download service). The 360's model is to use the extender first, leaving the files on the computer (or downloading it off a Xbox 360 video download service).
Also, don't stretch my comments too far; I was initially responding to the first post that used the term "all-in-one". I would expect to hear more compelling media capabilities beyond "ripping CDs" and playing back video once the DLNA stuff is released.
What do you mean by 'upload your stuff'? Is the feature really "copying video files to the console"? If that's the case, fine, the PS3 beats out the 360 feature for feature in the "copying video files" category.
If the question is playback, then it's a different story, since the 360 can playback video files just fine.
Cool...
True, but I knew you'd say that.
If you want to play movies from the hard drive (a feature why?), then yeah, the 360 doesn't do it. Then again, the 360 has the media center extender, which is useful because:
How does content get from point a to point b, where b in this case is the console? The PS3--as far as we have confirmed--requires using a computer to get the media first, then transfering it to the console to play (or downloading it off a PS3 video download service). The 360's model is to use the extender first, leaving the files on the computer (or downloading it off a Xbox 360 video download service).
The PS3 has a fully functional browser with which you can download your stuff yourself. This already works on the PSP too, where I can download movies, music and so on and save them directly in the video/music or photos folders for playback from the XMB. Also I'll be able to get them off my PSP using WiFi or USB file sharing. In the same manner I will be able to use any USB device to upload content, and of course there's also the option to use one of those programs that makes your PC host your media files via a (local) webinterface that you can then access over the browser. Additionally, the PSP supports RSS Audio and Video feeds (though the latter not yet streaming unfortunately) that you could use in the same way. I'm expecting that we'll get the RSS stuff on the PS3 also - would be surprising if we got features on the PSP like this that won't make it onto the PS3.
That's just based on what I've seen so far, there might still be other functions supported of course.
To be fair, a real all-in-one would take TV in somehow, but perhaps the DLNA will help there ...
As a small aside, if you have a camera that records video to a memory stick/compact flash/sd (or its own internal storage if generic usb storage is supported), you wouldn't necessarily need a computer to act as a go between to get it to your PS3. Actually, the browser may well support the saving of downloadable media off the open web too (of course you'll only be able to playback the formats the ps3 supports)...I'd have to check if PSP currently allows that.
edit - apparently it does (beaten by Arwin), so I'm sure PS3 is the same.
I think local playback is pretty important, and not supporting that is a very arbitrary limitation on MS's part aimed at artificially promoting the preeminence of the PC in the home as a media device. It is certainly nice to be able to stream from a PC (or other devices), but in addition to local playback functionality, not as a proposed replacement. Requiring a PC (and one that needs to be turned on) to allow a machine to playback video, when it is perfectly capable of doing so itself, is just a little crazy and places 360 as a second class citizen in their vision of the media ecosystem in the home. I actually only found out about this today, and I was very surprised to say the least. I think eventually they'll have to change that.
edit - apparently it does (beaten by Arwin), so I'm sure PS3 is the same.
I think local playback is pretty important, and not supporting that is a very arbitrary limitation on MS's part aimed at artificially promoting the preeminence of the PC in the home as a media device. It is certainly nice to be able to stream from a PC (or other devices), but in addition to local playback functionality, not as a proposed replacement. Requiring a PC (and one that needs to be turned on) to allow a machine to playback video, when it is perfectly capable of doing so itself, is just a little crazy and places 360 as a second class citizen in their vision of the media ecosystem in the home. I actually only found out about this today, and I was very surprised to say the least. I think eventually they'll have to change that.
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Really good point--shame on me for not making that connection.
I still think my point was reasonable and that the true multimedia capabilities have yet to be demonstrated and that what we have seen is roughly expected, regardless of how useful or cool it might be. If there's anyone that still thinks I was knocking the PS3 for this, let me reiterate that my point was that what we've learned in this thread is not expected...
Exaclty. This makes streaming irrelevant unless you are unwilling to make the one time migration of the content you already have.
I suppose I should have mentioned the direct internet acces to clarify,but I assumed it was understood since it's been discussed again and again.
