dragonelite
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[PS3] Killzone 3
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I've generally never been a fan of 3D with fps games (at least what I've played on PC) because I don't like having the gun always a fixed distance from the camera while you're trying to look at something that's far away from you.
But it could be really interesting to see how they handle the whole looking down the sights issue. Like with a normal "iron sight", it could switch to "one eye" aiming where you don't have depth perception and so the game goes into 2D. If you're shooting a gun with a scope, then they could use whatever the modern military acog scopes use and allow you to still have depth perception.
It'll be interesting, this is probably the first fps game really built for 3D so there could be a lot of new gameplay possibilities there.
But it could be really interesting to see how they handle the whole looking down the sights issue. Like with a normal "iron sight", it could switch to "one eye" aiming where you don't have depth perception and so the game goes into 2D. If you're shooting a gun with a scope, then they could use whatever the modern military acog scopes use and allow you to still have depth perception.
It'll be interesting, this is probably the first fps game really built for 3D so there could be a lot of new gameplay possibilities there.
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All that gameplay footage seems to be missing OB motion blur...
I'd prefer that to 3D to be honest.
I'd prefer that to 3D to be honest.
3D would be useful for gauging jump distance, lobing grenade and firing grenade launcher. For the last case, IMHO, they should not "downgrade" the launcher scope view. It would defeat one of the practical uses for stereoscopic 3D.
Your nick reminds me of Nintendo 3DS. I'm curious to see what Nintendo comes up with for autostereoscopic 3D and 3D joystick.
Anyway, someone made a youtube video by zooming into the KZ3 playscreen during the interview:
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If they keep the same info in their buffers, it should be easy to add motion blur back. In one of the earlier tech demoes, I remember they removed layers of post processing to show what the SPUs were doing.
http://games.venturebeat.com/2010/0...la-games-hermen-hulst-on-building-killzone-3/
Interview of Herman Hulst by Dean Takeshi. The game is in pre alpha state. Some asset come from Killzone 2:
Interview of Herman Hulst by Dean Takeshi. The game is in pre alpha state. Some asset come from Killzone 2:
The good news:
The bad news:
http://games.venturebeat.com/2010/0...ding-but-3d-tv-gaming-is-still-underwhelming/
Glad to see journalist being critical and flank.
I remember the MotorStorm demo had a little double image issue when the buggy was too close to the screen. But overall, the depth perception of the entire landscape is more fun especially in bonnet view. For an FPS like Killzone, the problems may be compounded because our movement is ad hoc, and our eyes will wander all over the screen.
Looks like GG will be on the hook to update PS3 gamers on their progress. I am certainly keen to track their work to see if stereoscopic 3D is ready for primetime. Tough life for them after the 2005 trailer. ^_^
The bad news:
http://games.venturebeat.com/2010/0...ding-but-3d-tv-gaming-is-still-underwhelming/
Glad to see journalist being critical and flank.
I remember the MotorStorm demo had a little double image issue when the buggy was too close to the screen. But overall, the depth perception of the entire landscape is more fun especially in bonnet view. For an FPS like Killzone, the problems may be compounded because our movement is ad hoc, and our eyes will wander all over the screen.
Looks like GG will be on the hook to update PS3 gamers on their progress. I am certainly keen to track their work to see if stereoscopic 3D is ready for primetime. Tough life for them after the 2005 trailer. ^_^
I'm not saying that it's a downgrade for you to lose depth perception when looking down the iron sights. It's something that you actually do in reality so it'd be interesting to see how Guerilla incorporates it into the game.
It's obvious that GG is very dedicated to making the weapons look and sound as realistic and visceral as possible so I wonder if they'll make it so that certain weapons required you to have less situational awareness (especially power weapons like the sniper, rocket launcher, etc) as a means of balancing then and making it more it more intense when you do use them. I'm hoping that GG chose 3D because they had a lot of cool ideas as to how it can affect gameplay.
Frankly ,i have a 3d tv sitting near to me,and i don't understand most of these comments .
I can buy that half the horizontal resolution will look blurry,but you don't have to stay at "the perfect position , even if that could be a problem with a DDR dancing game.
Cross talk is the same whatever your position is.
The bad news to me is the horizontal resolution ,period.But they can improve on that.
WOW at the screens, so much more epic and detailed than KZ2. The textures all round looked a lot sharper and lighting seems have some sort of AO going? I've seen a bad quality youtube clip and the particle effect from the explosions looked so much meatier but can't really tell anything about object motion blur from that but they did say it's included. Pretty much the best looking PS3 game I've seen so far.
Well the first game did had a fantastic Object Motion Blur...so it makes little to no sense to not expect it in the sequel.
The only unnatural thing I saw in that video was the crashing hover craft.
The player fired missiles at it, but the stationary craft spiralled towards the player instead of away from him. It created a nice explosion and a healthy supply of smoke nearby, so I don't want to complain.
The player fired missiles at it, but the stationary craft spiralled towards the player instead of away from him. It created a nice explosion and a healthy supply of smoke nearby, so I don't want to complain.
The only unnatural thing I saw in that video was the crashing hover craft.
The player fired missiles at it, but the stationary craft spiralled towards the player instead of away from him. It created a nice explosion and a healthy supply of smoke nearby, so I don't want to complain.
What if it had four thrusters to keep it up in the air and in-place, and your missiles destroyed the front two thrusters?
Love the scale conveyed by the huge structures. I was in the store today and discovered there (at least) 8 models of 3D televisions displayed, ranging from 1450 to 3000 euros. I asked to test the 3000 one, a Samsung, as it had Monsters vs Aliens and animated films tend to be far and away the best showcase/quality.
The short of it: I was pretty much blown away by the quality of the picture and the 3D (200hz, wireless glasses that weighed practically nothing, wore them over my own glasses). Lots of nice shots and effects, but the biggest showcase that I came across in my 5-10 minutes of watching, was when the lead character points a gun at the main villain, and that gun completely sticks out of the TV completely believably - the quality easily surpassed the cinema, and this was in very bright conditions right in the middle of the store. I couldn't really find any fault with it, except noticing the (presumably 24fps) framerate stutter.
If this is the quality I can purchase for 1000 euros by June 2010, then I'll get one practically guaranteed. And boy is it going to be tough to wait that long.
What if it had four thrusters to keep it up in the air and in-place, and your missiles destroyed the front two thrusters?
It's possible ! The video is too small to tell. The animation looked a little abrupt but like I said, I'm loving the explosions. The more the merrier !
I was in the store today and discovered there (at least) 8 models of 3D televisions displayed, ranging from 1450 to 3000 euros. I asked to test the 3000 one, a Samsung, as it had Monsters vs Aliens and animated films tend to be far and away the best showcase/quality.
The short of it: I was pretty much blown away by the quality of the picture and the 3D (200hz, wireless glasses that weighed practically nothing, wore them over my own glasses). Lots of nice shots and effects, but the biggest showcase that I came across in my 5-10 minutes of watching, was when the lead character points a gun at the main villain, and that gun completely sticks out of the TV completely believably - the quality easily surpassed the cinema, and this was in very bright conditions right in the middle of the store. I couldn't really find any fault with it, except noticing the (presumably 24fps) framerate stutter.
If this is the quality I can purchase for 1000 euros by June 2010, then I'll get one practically guaranteed. And boy is it going to be tough to wait that long.
I bumped into an old couple last Sunday in Sony's 3DTV demo area. They told me Sony 3D looks better than the Samsung one. I need to check Samsung out in case the couple works for Sony.
Well its probably a set-piece and will crash at that exact spot always ...
There were at least four different Samsung models, ranging from 1499 to 3099 ... So it probably also depends on the model.
EDIT: did anyone see that quadrotor demonstration on youtube? Willing to bet something like that will show up in a videogame sooner rather than later ... It's both awesome and rather scary.
There were at least four different Samsung models, ranging from 1499 to 3099 ... So it probably also depends on the model.
EDIT: did anyone see that quadrotor demonstration on youtube? Willing to bet something like that will show up in a videogame sooner rather than later ...
It's both awesome and rather scary. Black kolobok
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Can we talk about the story now?
I think I'm the only one who felt kind-of like a nazi, invading hellghan world, storming through their civilian establishments, all in a race to assassinate their leader. I don't know how many people actually read the history of the Killzone world. Hellghast used to be a peaceful union of human colonies, which controlled many star systems and served like a hub connecting many routes to deeper space exploration. After awhile, United Nations of Earth of the future didn't like how much Hellghast were charging those who wanted to use hellghan refueling/docking facilities on route to remote systems. This led to many wars, end result of which was Hellghast being defeated and eventually exiled to inhospitable Hellghan world where they seem to have lost some of humanity
Anyway, maybe I'm thinking too much into this, but I could never shake this feeling that I was doing something wrong while playing the game. I hope Guerilla team will take that into account, and at the end of KZ3 some kind of justice could prevail, maybe in the form of peace treaty and permission for Hellghast to join remaining human civilization.
I think I'm the only one who felt kind-of like a nazi, invading hellghan world, storming through their civilian establishments, all in a race to assassinate their leader. I don't know how many people actually read the history of the Killzone world. Hellghast used to be a peaceful union of human colonies, which controlled many star systems and served like a hub connecting many routes to deeper space exploration. After awhile, United Nations of Earth of the future didn't like how much Hellghast were charging those who wanted to use hellghan refueling/docking facilities on route to remote systems. This led to many wars, end result of which was Hellghast being defeated and eventually exiled to inhospitable Hellghan world where they seem to have lost some of humanity
Anyway, maybe I'm thinking too much into this, but I could never shake this feeling that I was doing something wrong while playing the game. I hope Guerilla team will take that into account, and at the end of KZ3 some kind of justice could prevail, maybe in the form of peace treaty and permission for Hellghast to join remaining human civilization.
Its not supposed to be good, its apparent that the ISA are the bad guys here from the start.
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