Project Gotham NY Skyline and Brooklynn Bridge Video

Acert93 you are right they didn't capture it exact, because the bridge is wider than that,( it could have been captured like that to make it harder to drive by someone) but they did a great job of capturing NYC.
 
Its a shame i really aint in to driving-games(besides RR on PSP), the latest i couldnt stopp play was Daytona USA on Sega Saturn.. Oh well..
 
overclocked said:
Its a shame i really aint in to driving-games(besides RR on PSP), the latest i couldnt stopp play was Daytona USA on Sega Saturn.. Oh well..
The funny thing is I am not a huge racing fan either. What I have found, for me, is that while I am typically luke warm toward the racing genre, a GREAT racing can really pull me in. Daytona USA, Sega Rally, GT2 & 3, and, ummmm... Mario Kart and a few of the Twisted Metal series. Not a big list there ;)

You can see my taste is either in really good sim games, high quality arcade-sims. And if it is gonna be goofy, it better be really good and have good gameplay/MP.

Anyhow, PGR3 looks to fit well inbetween "good sim" and "high quality arcade-sim". I may not be a die hard racing fan, but I really do enjoy a good racer *IF* it avoids a lot of the typical racing game pitfalls. It is said to play very much like PGR. The cabin view is exciting (most exciting game footage I have seen yet) and the scope of the world--which is huge and detailed--really draws me in. The cars seem to have a good sense of speed and seem to react to the road. Maybe a little forgiving on the arcade side on the controls, but I can understand that (Bizarre said they wanted people to feel like they were professional drivers).

All in all if the Online is as good as they have indicated (and some of the crazy PGR1/2 modes make it back!) and it plays well and gives that sense of "intense race!" then this will be one of those games that impacts my buying decision.

PGR3 really seems to be ahead of RR and Test Drive. While I can live with 30fps with all the motion blur and other effects, I hope they hit 60fps. That would put it in the "classic" category. Not because there wont be better racers, only that it was one of the first true next gen games--and a darned well good one at that. It could still hit that status, but not hitting 60fps is going to bumb some racing fans out.
 
Acert93 said:
The funny thing is I am not a huge racing fan either. What I have found, for me, is that while I am typically luke warm toward the racing genre, a GREAT racing can really pull me in. Daytona USA, Sega Rally, GT2 & 3, and, ummmm... Mario Kart and a few of the Twisted Metal series. Not a big list there ;)

You can see my taste is either in really good sim games, high quality arcade-sims. And if it is gonna be goofy, it better be really good and have good gameplay/MP.

Anyhow, PGR3 looks to fit well inbetween "good sim" and "high quality arcade-sim". I may not be a die hard racing fan, but I really do enjoy a good racer *IF* it avoids a lot of the typical racing game pitfalls. It is said to play very much like PGR. The cabin view is exciting (most exciting game footage I have seen yet) and the scope of the world--which is huge and detailed--really draws me in. The cars seem to have a good sense of speed and seem to react to the road. Maybe a little forgiving on the arcade side on the controls, but I can understand that (Bizarre said they wanted people to feel like they were professional drivers).

All in all if the Online is as good as they have indicated (and some of the crazy PGR1/2 modes make it back!) and it plays well and gives that sense of "intense race!" then this will be one of those games that impacts my buying decision.

PGR3 really seems to be ahead of RR and Test Drive. While I can live with 30fps with all the motion blur and other effects, I hope they hit 60fps. That would put it in the "classic" category. Not because there wont be better racers, only that it was one of the first true next gen games--and a darned well good one at that. It could still hit that status, but not hitting 60fps is going to bumb some racing fans out.

I have played GT3 on PS2 "fairly" much but find it quite boring because i know shit of cars and what to finetune etz, otherwise it would have been a blast. The track i liked the most was the oval shaped one just to get better times with motor uppgrades and so on.

There was a game on PS2 that i thought was quite funny and played alot Rumble racing which was like a funny, arcade cant describe, only reason i bought it was because it was in a "trashcan" for 10£ and this was when games were rare and expensive.

But D USA, simple, 3 tracks and 3 cars(?) was the game i enjoyed the most. I see the "brillians" in the GT games but its to hard and im not really into cars.. :)
 
Real World comparison to PGR3's environment. This is incredible. :oops:


Can you guess the real from the fake? Take the test.

A.
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B.
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C.
01_comparison.jpg



Again best looking Xbox360 game so far.
 
mckmas8808 said:
Real World comparison to PGR3's environment. This is incredible. :oops:


Can you guess the real from the fake? Take the test.

A.
02_comparison.jpg




B.
03_comparison.jpg




C.
01_comparison.jpg



Again best looking Xbox360 game so far.

Any chance youll be able to fix the links? Id definitely like ot check this out.

J
 
expletive said:
I read an interview where bizarre said they knew about the popping and it would definitely be fixed. Theres so many interviews with them at this point i wouldnt know where to begin to track it down for you... :(

J

Yup. It was alreay fixed at X05 I think, just not in the build they had in Amsterdam...
 
Accoarding to one of our local newspapers that had an extract on some of the latest Xbox360 news from X05, PGR3 surroundings came across as quite disappointing compared to the detail found in the cars. Apparently, there's quite a difference between earlier screenshots and the current build.
 
Phil said:
Accoarding to one of our local newspapers that had an extract on some of the latest Xbox360 news from X05, PGR3 surroundings came across as quite disappointing compared to the detail found in the cars. Apparently, there's quite a difference between earlier screenshots and the current build.

after waching the few gameplay videos, I don't know what they are dissapointed with
 
Actually, I wasn't agreeing nor disagreeing with them - just passing on the information as it was published in the newspaper today from people attending the show and using, I presume, the latest build to judge their view on the game.

In fact, I don't claim to have the footage (that being an actual Xbox360 with the latest build of PGR3 in my posession running on a tv infront of me) that was reviewed, so I can't take any sides either way. I certainly won't grab any low-resolution trailers either because the quality simply isn't there to effectively judge the surroundings and validate their opinion on the matter.

I did post the news however because we had a similar discussion a few weeks/months ago where we had all nice wireframe shots of the surroundings and how good everything looked - yet on all other screens that appeared to be from gameplay (or gameplay representative), the surroundings simply looked washed-out, lacking a lot of detail that was present in those wireframe shots or earlier renders.

Take it as you will.
 
Phil said:
Actually, I wasn't agreeing nor disagreeing with them - just passing on the information as it was published in the newspaper today from people attending the show and using, I presume, the latest build to judge their view on the game.

In fact, I don't claim to have the footage (that being an actual Xbox360 with the latest build of PGR3 in my posession running on a tv infront of me) that was reviewed, so I can't take any sides either way. I certainly won't grab any low-resolution trailers either because the quality simply isn't there to effectively judge the surroundings and validate their opinion on the matter.

I did post the news however because we had a similar discussion a few weeks/months ago where we had all nice wireframe shots of the surroundings and how good everything looked - yet on all other screens that appeared to be from gameplay (or gameplay representative), the surroundings simply looked washed-out, lacking a lot of detail that was present in those wireframe shots or earlier renders.

Take it as you will.

Which paper? Any chance the article is online?

J
 
It should be, but didn't find the link yet. In anycase, it's in German and it was just a small little paragraph summarizing what's happening at X05 - no big review or anything.

In anycase, once I find the link, I'll post it.
 
Phil said:
Actually, I wasn't agreeing nor disagreeing with them - just passing on the information as it was published in the newspaper today from people attending the show and using, I presume, the latest build to judge their view on the game.

In fact, I don't claim to have the footage (that being an actual Xbox360 with the latest build of PGR3 in my posession running on a tv infront of me) that was reviewed, so I can't take any sides either way. I certainly won't grab any low-resolution trailers either because the quality simply isn't there to effectively judge the surroundings and validate their opinion on the matter.

I did post the news however because we had a similar discussion a few weeks/months ago where we had all nice wireframe shots of the surroundings and how good everything looked - yet on all other screens that appeared to be from gameplay (or gameplay representative), the surroundings simply looked washed-out, lacking a lot of detail that was present in those wireframe shots or earlier renders.

Take it as you will.


You aren't a columnest for said paper are you? ;)
 
No point bickering. One mag had something negative to say, another (IGN) said it was looking a lot better in September (TGS) than it did a month before in Augest and after X05 indicate there is a chance it still may end up at 60fps (still uncertain if it will be optimized enough by launch) and think it looks fabluous. You win some, you lose some.

You will have people who love a game and others, for whatever reason (be it genuine or otherwise), don't. Take the top ranked game of all time: Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Overall rating of 98.1 from major media sources. Yet Computer & Video Games gave it a 90%. The nerve of them!

Of course not all gamers are the same, nor reviewers. Beyond blatant bias there is of course preference and taste. So even if one has an axe to grind they can still make valid points and we should not always assume a negative comment is biased. At least consider the criticism and take a look.

No game, and I mean no game, is perfect. Some aspire to near perfection--meaning 95 out of 100 gamers are like "WOW!!" The other 5%? Well, you cannot please everyone. But that is not the goal.

PGR3 does not need to win over EVERYONE to be "great". There will be reviewers, yes even gamers here, who don't like great titles. Mario 64, ZOoT, MGS2, GT2, Mario Kart, Half-Life, on and on. As great as those games were they did not appeal to every single gamer.
 
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