DaveBaumann said:One of the reviewers trashed a board when trying to flash to the retail BIOS.
Talking from first hand experience, Dave?
DaveBaumann said:One of the reviewers trashed a board when trying to flash to the retail BIOS.
Thank you PatrickL, I had been wondering about that when I heard it.PatrickL said:- 40% more transistors, yet only 9% bigger die. Costs 10-15% lower, with better process capacity
It s nice trick here. He is talking about die and the following sentence he is talking about wafers.
i can trust each wafer cost 10 or 15 % more due to low-k process, but that tells nothing about the cost per die despite the obvious attempt of confusing things
Evildeus said:I think he is talking about that:Joe DeFuria said:PaulS said:- ATi have hand picked boards to be sent to reviewers, each at a different speed (?), potentially confusing consumers. NVIDIA don't do this, and their boards are much better overclockers that the XT (due to the hand picking mentioned previously, apparently).
Methinks he has ATI and nVidia completely confused.
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Florin said:Joe DeFuria said:Funny stuff...
6800U designed specifically for enthusiasts, has lots of "frequency headroom", and comes with an optional second power connector, required only for overclocking
I guess this confirms that the 6800U is actually overclocked then.
Provided the transcription is correct, how so? Does the U require the second connector?
Regardlessly, I'm sure you're aware that it is not overclocking as long as Nvidia guarantees the U core will run at the speed it does..
nelg said:Hmmm, I am surprised that Nv is officially sanctioning overclocking. Comments like that may open up some legal issues.
Joe DeFuria said:Florin said:Joe DeFuria said:Funny stuff...
6800U designed specifically for enthusiasts, has lots of "frequency headroom", and comes with an optional second power connector, required only for overclocking
I guess this confirms that the 6800U is actually overclocked then.
Provided the transcription is correct, how so? Does the U require the second connector?
You certainly can't run it stock by only plugging in one...
PaulS said:Well, he specifically mentioned that only one power connector was required for stock on at least 3 separate occasions during the call. He really couldn't be any clearer in what he was saying, so either the reviewers are wrong, the final boards will only require 1 molex, or he's lying. At this point, i'd be surprised if he was lying about something as simple as this, especially when he kept saying it over and over.
PaulS said:Although I'm sure people can pull up other examples of times he's lied, so I guess we'll see.
DaveBaumann said:PaulS said:Well, he specifically mentioned that only one power connector was required for stock on at least 3 separate occasions during the call. He really couldn't be any clearer in what he was saying, so either the reviewers are wrong, the final boards will only require 1 molex, or he's lying. At this point, i'd be surprised if he was lying about something as simple as this, especially when he kept saying it over and over.
Its quite explicit in their own reviewers guide for a 480W PSU with both connectors plugged in to separate rails. Its not a case of reviewers making this stuff up, this is what NVIDIA documentation states.
PaulS said:DaveBaumann said:PaulS said:Well, he specifically mentioned that only one power connector was required for stock on at least 3 separate occasions during the call. He really couldn't be any clearer in what he was saying, so either the reviewers are wrong, the final boards will only require 1 molex, or he's lying. At this point, i'd be surprised if he was lying about something as simple as this, especially when he kept saying it over and over.
Its quite explicit in their own reviewers guide for a 480W PSU with both connectors plugged in to separate rails. Its not a case of reviewers making this stuff up, this is what NVIDIA documentation states.
Sure, and I believe you. I'm just trying to work out why he said what he said, because why would he lie about something that is so easily debunked?
DaveBaumann said:PaulS said:Well, he specifically mentioned that only one power connector was required for stock on at least 3 separate occasions during the call. He really couldn't be any clearer in what he was saying, so either the reviewers are wrong, the final boards will only require 1 molex, or he's lying. At this point, i'd be surprised if he was lying about something as simple as this, especially when he kept saying it over and over.
Its quite explicit in their own reviewers guide for a 480W PSU with both connectors plugged in to separate rails. Its not a case of reviewers making this stuff up, this is what NVIDIA documentation states.
Florin said:DaveBaumann said:PaulS said:Well, he specifically mentioned that only one power connector was required for stock on at least 3 separate occasions during the call. He really couldn't be any clearer in what he was saying, so either the reviewers are wrong, the final boards will only require 1 molex, or he's lying. At this point, i'd be surprised if he was lying about something as simple as this, especially when he kept saying it over and over.
Its quite explicit in their own reviewers guide for a 480W PSU with both connectors plugged in to separate rails. Its not a case of reviewers making this stuff up, this is what NVIDIA documentation states.
I'm not sure how they phrased it but is it possible they included that statement to make sure the board would also work in any overclocking tests that some reviewers may have been tempted to do?
I'm curious if anyone tried running on a single connector.
Has anyone actually checked to see if a 6800 will run at it's default with only one molex? :|PaulS said:Joe DeFuria said:You certainly can't run it stock by only plugging in one...
Well, he specifically mentioned that only one power connector was required for stock on at least 3 separate occasions during the call. He really couldn't be any clearer in what he was saying, so either the reviewers are wrong, the final boards will only require 1 molex, or he's lying. At this point, i'd be surprised if he was lying about something as simple as this, especially when he kept saying it over and over.
Although I'm sure people can pull up other examples of times he's lied, so I guess we'll see.
ote that both Molex plugs are coming off of one wire from the PSU. We did not experience any problems with this configuration and never once had the low power dialog box pop up. We did remove the second Molex connector and tried running the card on just the primary power plug. As soon as the computer booted into Windows the low power dialog box popped up informing us we were running in a reduced power mode.
This is a first, my question was actually answered before I could post it!Stryyder said:Those that did received a warning screen saying that only one connector was connected and that they would nto be able to proceed in 3d I think Kyle at Hard had it in his 6800 U review but I know at least 2 reviewers tried it.
digitalwanderer said:This is a first, my question was actually answered before I could post it!Stryyder said:Those that did received a warning screen saying that only one connector was connected and that they would nto be able to proceed in 3d I think Kyle at Hard had it in his 6800 U review but I know at least 2 reviewers tried it.
Thanks Stryyder!