Price vs Power

Which strategy do you support?

  • Cheaper Price

    Votes: 18 24.3%
  • More Power

    Votes: 56 75.7%

  • Total voters
    74
Ah, but see perceived differences in power, are probably more important than actual differences in power.

It's why so many people held off from buying the Dreamcast and why the SDF vent such fury on 'lazy devs' when the PS3 comes out worse in Face Offs.

If word get's around that all Durango titles look worse than their PS4 counterparts, that's not going to be good - no matter if your average consumer can actually tell the differenc between the two.

That might be true here, in the real world not so much. It certainly hasn't crippled PS3 sales has it.
 
That might be true here, in the real world not so much. It certainly hasn't crippled PS3 sales has it.

Well, see the PS3 benefits from this 'perceived power' caveat as thanks to Sony's marketing and word of mouth, a lot of people who bought PS3's (besides casuals) bought it thinking it was the most powerful console.

You see discussions here (well probably more on GAF, TeamXbox, PSU, IGN, Gamespot etc) filter down from the hardcore engaged in the console wars, to their less knowledgeable friends (who ask them for advice on what console to buy etc). No one wants to be riled for having bought the crappy box, when everyone else in the group is playing on PS4. The network effect is quite strong.

Certainly all my friends who have PS3s, despite most of them being largely ignorant of console hardware design and rendering technology, will still argue that the PS3 is more powerful than 360, and is a key reason why they bought it.

This gen, I would say advantages in 'perceived power' (due to on paper specs and great looking Sony exclusives) mostly aided the PS3 (in initial/early adopter sales, despite it's much higher cost relative to 360) however it was tempered somewhat by the real world performance of the two machines, e.g. like most multiplats running better on 360.

So there was no clear holder of the 'greatest perceived power' title this gen, this looks to change for next gen though, where PS4 should be ahead both on paper and in real world performance (and it isn't launching a year later either).
 
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If the current gen is anything to go by most people won't notice a difference in a title until DF does a comparison. Except of course for the forum warriors trying to justify their brand.

And all things are never equal so the poll is just bs, but most of us knew that anyway.

That's because during the later part of the generation, on average, most games looked almost exactly the same to the point that you needed DF to make comparisons. Unless there is some special sauce in the 720 and the leaked specs are indeed correct, the PS4 version has a far higher chance of looking better with any game, especially since it's nearly the same system architecture.
 
That's because during the later part of the generation, on average, most games looked almost exactly the same to the point that you needed DF to make comparisons. Unless there is some special sauce in the 720 and the leaked specs are indeed correct, the PS4 version has a far higher chance of looking better with any game, especially since it's nearly the same system architecture.

As system power increases the disparity in power needs to be greater to result in perceivable differences. So while it might indeed look better, many people will not notice
 
As system power increases the disparity in power needs to be greater to result in perceivable differences. So while it might indeed look better, many people will not notice

True, but it's the trendsetters who will say things like "Nearly all games look better on PS4" in order for things to possibly tip towards Sony. It doesn't have to actually be true, just perceived to be.
 
True, but it's the trendsetters who will say things like "Nearly all games look better on PS4" in order for things to possibly tip towards Sony. It doesn't have to actually be true, just perceived to be.

Exactly, like all my friends who used to say at the beginning of this gen, 'Forza doesn't look that great, wait until GT5 comes out, it'll look way better" or "Halo 3 looks like an Xbox 1.5 game, have you seen the Killzone 2 E3 trailer?" etc.

And the disparity in power is definitely much larger for next gen than it was this gen (where the machines were basically equal give or take advantages in certain areas), so there will be differences that DF will pick up on and fanboys can point too.

Certainly, from the tone of his recent articles (and if you ask him directly), Richard himself doesn't buy all this "it's going to be a wash - just like this gen" line of thinking.
 
Exactly, like all my friends who used to say at the beginning of this gen, 'Forza doesn't look that great, wait until GT5 comes out, it'll look way better" or "Halo 3 looks like an Xbox 1.5 game, have you seen the Killzone 2 E3 trailer?" etc.

And the disparity in power is definitely much larger for next gen than it was this gen (where the machines were basically equal give or take advantages in certain areas), so there will be differences that DF will pick up on and fanboys can point too.

Certainly, from the tone of his recent articles (and if you ask him directly), Richard himself doesn't buy all this "it's going to be a wash - just like this gen" line of thinking.

I don't want to derail the thread even more but I still can't get over the fact that despite the PS3 costing hundreds more and releasing a year later, it still outsold the 360 by 5 million units in Europe. And with the Wii U not doing that hot in any territory, either the entire industry is in a slump or there's a huge opening for a system to unequivocally be #1.
 
I don't want to derail the thread even more but I still can't get over the fact that despite the PS3 costing hundreds more and releasing a year later, it still outsold the 360 by 5 million units in Europe. And with the Wii U not doing that hot in any territory, either the entire industry is in a slump or there's a huge opening for a system to unequivocally be #1.

Yeah, MS really only has the advantage in the US, in Europe, Asia, Australia etc, PS is no 1.

The fact that PS3 is neck and neck with 360, despite 360 having a year's headstart, being cheaper, having Kinect (which has been far more successful than Move) shows the PS brand is still stronger than Xbox and next gen when MS no longer has these advantages (besides Kinect) , and in fact might have clear negatives ( no used games, no offline etc) it's going to be a much harder sell.
 
Yeah, MS really only has the advantage in the US, in Europe, Asia, Australia etc, PS is no 1.

The fact that PS3 is neck and neck with 360, despite 360 having a year's headstart, being cheaper, having Kinect (which has been far more successful than Move) shows the PS brand is still stronger than Xbox and next gen when MS no longer has these advantages (besides Kinect) , and in fact might have clear negatives ( no used games, no offline etc) it's going to be a much harder sell.

Sony also has far more first and second party studios.
 
I don't want to derail the thread even more but I still can't get over the fact that despite the PS3 costing hundreds more and releasing a year later, it still outsold the 360 by 5 million units in Europe. And with the Wii U not doing that hot in any territory, either the entire industry is in a slump or there's a huge opening for a system to unequivocally be #1.

Don't forget that the PS3 was the best generic Bluray Player for 2-3 years. A lot people got them back then just to watch films.
 
Sony also had free online gaming and simply a console that did more. It's understandable if the higher price was considered value for money.
 
Well, MS have certainly closed the enormous gap that existed in 2005. They're in a great position for their next system if they get it right. It just has to compete with a PS4 for power/traditional games and offer more waggle for the wagglers.
 
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