pre-X06 MEGATON precognition chronicle

Not much high quality discussion here - much of the usual bickering. :(

For me, the big news here is Peter Jackson working on XB360 projects. That guy's famous outside of games! That he's willing to treat games with the same regard as films is something big for the industry. Although I would like confirmation as to his role. The guy's a director, so working on a story isn't necessarily good news. I'd like to know his creative input.

Still, a big name like that from Hollywood apparently committing to game development is something big. I presume that pack-in of KK with HD DVD drive helped a little ;)
 
so, how do people feel about X06 having any effect at all for people that where on the edge of either buying a 360, or waiting for ps3?

(serious question, serious answers please)
 
Not much high quality discussion here - much of the usual bickering. :(

For me, the big news here is Peter Jackson working on XB360 projects. That guy's famous outside of games! That he's willing to treat games with the same regard as films is something big for the industry. Although I would like confirmation as to his role. The guy's a director, so working on a story isn't necessarily good news. I'd like to know his creative input.

Still, a big name like that from Hollywood apparently committing to game development is something big. I presume that pack-in of KK with HD DVD drive helped a little ;)

Didn't mean anything to me, to be honest. John Woo was first. ;) That this happens is very predictable. What's going to interest me a lot more is when the first game that comes out of a production like this, is actually any good. Movies and Games right now, close together in one sentence, raise my 'sucky-game' alarm. It comes from years of conditioning. The harsh reality of it all though is that sex ... I mean, movie licences ... sell videogames.

I don't want to see any more of that. Games should be good games. Then you can surely improve their presentation, their story line, and so on, but it's only going to be interesting once the director brings in people in that area too. You need a coherent vision that includes a game that has story telling elements, like Assassin's Creed, Resistance, Gears of War, and so on, and then sure, a director can help out with the story part, but he will never be more than 50% responsible for the actual quality of the game until he becomes as knowledgeable about games as he is about movies.

And I honestly believe that directing the story elements of a game is easier than directing a game to become an enjoyable game to play, and am almost certain that the first is more important as well as harder to learn.

Game developers can learn from directors though, by bringing in camera men and so on for the right moments, and the movie industry will move forward if we get more specialists that are well known in their field working on various different projects, rather than be employed by one employer. I think things will move in this direction further and further. Already, I think that a game like Gears wows the public not by technical achievement, but by direction, art, story, camera, and so on.
 
so, how do people feel about X06 having any effect at all for people that where on the edge of either buying a 360, or waiting for ps3?

I'm still undecided for a Christmas purchase. Two Xboxes of my friends' have brokeen down, and the only game for this year that I'm really interested about is GOW. I'm also saving up for various reasons, and an X360 Premium with Wifi and games is not a small purchase. So I might end up waiting for a hardware revision and some more games (Mass Effect, Bioshock) before buying the console.

With that said, a limited Black edition could easily tempt me... ;)
 
I think it's been a strong show in an organic way, but not a home run. Some Halo 3+price drop would be needed for the home run.

I am amazed at the graphics in Assasins Creed though. It really does look just like those screens but in real time. I always doubted those screens.
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Didn't mean anything to me, to be honest. John Woo was first. ;) That this happens is very predictable. What's going to interest me a lot more is when the first game that comes out of a production like this, is actually any good.

A lot of people would argue that the Riddick game was better than the movies.
 
A lot of people would argue that the Riddick game was better than the movies.

I don't know what it is but me and my wife love "The Chronicels of Riddick". One of my favorite Sci-Fi flicks I found it very original and innovative in special effect. The game was ok but not great.
 
A lot of people would argue that the Riddick game was better than the movies.

I really enjoyed Pitch Black, but the game was significantly better than the movie Chronicles of Riddick. That movie just seemed to ruin the good things PB and EfBB had going for them.

After all is said and done, however, I'm glad there was no announcement for Halo 3 natively running in 1080p. Next thing would have been 60fps to boot. I don't think the game needs either one, and if the game is going to be competetive graphics wise, I don't think it can afford the tradeoffs necessary there. Gameplay comes first, of course, and I'd play Halo if it were cel-shaded. (Which I would probably like, actually.... I've become quite fond of cel-shading after LoZ: WW) Halo finally going back to its original RTS roots is interesting as well.

Assassin's Creed Gameplay looks very interesting, and I'd love to play it. Mass Effect in those pictures in the other topic looks absolutely awesome. Add to that Banjo, and others, and I'm quite impressed. The Gears of War gameplay looked a little underwhelming, however. Trying to go in for the chainsaw might not have been worth it for all the hassle Cliffy had to go through to get it down.
 
With that said, a limited Black edition could easily tempt me... ;)

nope. more like this cool beauty here
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Checking that article, it seems that this picture is at least a year old and probably Photoshopped... :(
 
Checking that article, it seems that this picture is at least a year old and probably Photoshopped... :(

:cry: :arrow: :D

I was certain I saw it somewhere these conference days, and so I searched a bit...

so here is a quick photo taken of my tv (excuse me for the bad quality),
from what is the intro to m$ keynote@TGS a few days ago (video from xboxlive)


I guess your fella should be the one on the left ;)
 
so, how do people feel about X06 having any effect at all for people that where on the edge of either buying a 360, or waiting for ps3?

(serious question, serious answers please)

I have disliked the Xbox...yeah...I have never thought about owning one. But man is the 360 shaping nicely ! It sur is getting interesting. I'm very tempted right now; but I'll wait to see the final goodies of the PS3 before deciding... :D
 
Checking that article, it seems that this picture is at least a year old and probably Photoshopped... :(

You could go for the Black Knight case mod (shiny+black), which looks absolutely stunning IMO, however, you have to void the warranty seal for it.
 
Geras of War and Shadowrun impressions from Bungie:

http://www.bungie.net/News/Story.aspx?cid=8965

X06 Humpday Challenge
Posted by SketchFactor at 9/27/2006 11:46 PM
Frankie and I are over in Barcelona for Microsoft's X06 event but we still managed to throw together a little Humpday Day challenge... with a twist. Some things may change, but some things will always remain the same.

As everyone knows by now, the X06 event is underway in full force and last night the Halo community was blasted with a double-header of new announcements including the new Ensemble RTS "Halo Wars" and our new partnership with Peter Jackson and Wingnut Interactive for future Halo experiences. It's been a whirlwind of excitement to be sure, but amidst the press and frenzy Frankie and I found a little time yesterday to throw together an impromptu Humpday Challenge of a slightly different variety.

On the outskirts of Barcelona in a very odd building known as "Hesperia Tower", the Microsoft PR team has transformed a generic conference room into what can best be described as a mini E3 event. There are literally dozens of playable games on the floor and yesterday we had the opportunity to play around a bit before the event officially got underway.

So, naturally, we decided to take our mad skillz we've acquired through thousands of hours of Halo pwnage and apply them to other games.


Game One : The Shadowrun Challenge

First up, Frank and I ended up in a challenge match against some of the guys from Fasa studios in their upcoming title, Shadowrun. I know many people have a love hate relationship with this new iteration of a classic franchise but I can tell you that the game we played offered a ton of promise and looks to raise the bar in quite a few areas of gameplay and strategy. A few of us were playing on Xbox 360s and the rest were playing on PCs - a nifty new feature afforded by the advent of "Live Anywhere."

Much to my surprise, we completely destroyed the Fasa team at their own game, our first time ever playing. It was astonishing really.

Ok, so that's not at all what happened. We were demolished. And, we were pwned hardstyle by BOTS. Yes, bots. Vicious, mean bots that showed no mercy despite us never having touched the game before. We only had a short time to play but for fans of heavy strategy games along the vein of Counterstrike who are looking for something new and fresh, this could very well be the game you are waiting for.

Final Score: Bots Win. We Lose.
Tone: Overwhelmingly Embarassing


Game Two: Gears of War

Later in the evening, we came back to the same venue to show our new partner-in-crime Peter Jackson a few of the new Xbox titles at the show. While they mingled and explored a variety of titles, Frankie and I decided to step into a grudge match of a new kind - a one on one Gears of War showdown.

We jumped into a game and spent the better part of 10 minutes just drooling over the environments and graphics. Words really can't do this game justice - it really looks better running on an HD monitor than it does in screenshots. As Frank oggled the pretty water and realistic gritty textures I managed to find a variety of sniper rifle and promptly delivered a killing headshot. Score one for the Locusts (the 'bad guy' species in GoW).

When round two began, I decided to head for the same rifle but this time, O'Connor was on to me. I took cover behind a wall (an integral part of the GoW experience) and tried to fire off a round to no avail. The downside to this rifle is that it's slow to reload and while that was happening, Frankie flanked me and gave me an up close and personal introduction to his chainsaw bayonet. Score one for the good guys.

Round three began and we engaged in a close quarters firefight, both of us using two burned out automobiles for cover. After trading a few dozen rounds Frankie managed to drop me with a well placed pistol round. We reset positions and entered into the battlefield again, this time things went my way and I managed to flush him out of cover with a well placed grenade to finish the job with my assault rifle. The score is 2-2, next kill wins it all.

When the final round began, we had a better sense of the map and it unfolded in a slower, more deliberate manner. We used cover wisely, sprinting through open spots and throwing ourselves against pillars and rocks to avoid incoming fire. I had Frankie in my sights and laid down supressing fire while I tried to move in closer for the kill. As I took cover on the opposite side of the wall he was hiding behind, Frankie jumped around and greeted me with a shotgun to the face. Game Over.

Final Score: Frankie 3, Sketch 2
Tone: Tense, and crazy pretty

So, there you have it - another loss for Team Bungie (shock) and even more surprising, an actual WIN for Frankie (if only it were Halo).

Today I'll be out on the show floor happily pwning press on Halo 2 for Windows Vista, trying to regain some composure.

Cheers from Barcelona!
 
A few of us were playing on Xbox 360s and the rest were playing on PCs - a nifty new feature afforded by the advent of "Live Anywhere."


quoted for Acert93 to drool over much online PC ownage. ;)
 
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