Actually I think samsung still uses their own, Sony just flipped from samsung to sharp. Toshiba I think will also be buying from sharp. That doesn't really change your point tho.
Sony has a joint LCD plant with Samsung but they're going to be investing in a new joint LCD plant with Sharp too.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,142997/article.html
Because, you would tangible benefit from buying a larger 768p display or even just pocketing the cash rather than spending the cash on avoiding the need to be scaled, as the latter is rendered moot at the distance you will be view it from when using a display with quality scaling hardware.Why in the world would I want to buy a 768 set so everything I would watch would need to be scaled.
It may seem that way for you, but in practice it is anything but. On the other hand, as I mentioned previously, silly would be trying to use a 1080p desktop on a 42" from 8' away with anything less than the eyes of a hawk.Nothing could display at native res except my desktop.
That seems silly to me.
So the experience you've been trying to argue contract my stamens of display resolution aren't even just that of output resolution, but actually rendering resolution as well? That is akin to hearing me say "Pigs don't fly." and you responding with "You're wrong, I've seen birds do it!"All I'm saying is that in my personal experience of testing PC games in 720p and 1080p both scaled and unscaled, 1080p looks better.
So the experience you've been trying to argue contract my stamens of display resolution aren't even just that of output resolution, but actually rendering resolution as well?
Actually, accounting for the difference in resolution, about 4.5' from the display would be the same. Also, if you are actually arms length away, then you are either closer than 3.5" now, about 9' tall, or have some disproportionately long arms. With the odds weighing heavily on the first, I recommend using a tape measure to see just how impractical a 1680x1050 desktop is on that 20" from 4.5' away.I don't know what eyes I have, other than not needing glasses, but I can certainly see my LCD (20" 1680*1050) screen from 4 feet so a 42 inch from 8 feet seems about the same to me. I sit with my LCD on the far back of my desk literally hanging off a bit and my keyboard at the front hanging the lip off and at arms length. So my default position is 3.5 feet from my 20" LCD.
The increase in resolution on a 768p display over a 720p counterpart often provides an improvement in image fidelity at standard viewing distances. It would be ridiculous for manufactures to not exploit that.I am well aware they don't come in 720p. That was rather my point. It always from day one seemed incredibly foolish to me. I guess it is just manufacturing issues, but it seems ridiculous.
As Robert explained above, the only way one can rightly test the difference between two different display resolutions is with two displays built to the same specs aside from their differing native resolutions. Anything else and you are just pointing to oranges while attempting to make an argument about apples.How then do you suggest I test?
Actually, accounting for the difference in resolution, about 4.5' from the display would be the same. Also, if you are actually arms length away, then you are either closer than 3.5" now, about 9' tall, or have some disproportionately long arms. With the odds weighing heavily on the first, I recommend using a tape measure to see just how impractical a 1680x1050 desktop is on that 20" from 4.5' away.
The increase in resolution on a 768p display over a 720p counterpart often provides an improvement in image fidelity at standard viewing distances. It would be ridiculous for manufactures to not exploit that.
Also, you are missing a vital part of the equation with your summery; view distance. For instance; even with a 60" display, a person with 20/20 or less won't observe any tangible benefit between a 1080p display and a 768p counterpart from more than 11' away. Or the other hand, even on a 32" 1080p display, 20/20 vision will resolve the full resolution when viewed from a distance of about 4.5' or less.
And again, with your intended viewing distance of 8", 20/20 vision won't even resolve 700 lines of resolution from a 42" display, 1080p or otherwise. However, the same eyesight at the same distance will resolve more resolution from 50" display.
Yeah, though, I'm sure you've seen it doesn't effect everything, and screws up the formating on some things as well. I recomend trying 1440x900 using either your video drivers scaling or that of the display, depending on whichever does a better job, as you might find that a preferable solution. I also have a 22" LCD, which I keep on the entertainment center that sits off to the side of my plasma. Being 8' away from that, I have to run the desktop on it at 960x600 to read it clearly from my couch. Like most LCD monitors, the scaling on it is crap, I use Nvidia drivers for that which does a decent job of it.In order to read the standard fonts on the desktop icons I have to try fairly hard so I've changed to large fonts in the appearance tab of display propertie which helps a lot.
Very roughly. Your eperience with a 20" 1680x1080 display at 3.5' translates to what you'd resolve from a 42" at about 6.2'. Again, 8' from a 1080p desktop on a 42" is just as impratical as 4.5' from your 1680x1050 20".Kyle I realize it was not crystal clear after the manner of Strunk.
I am not missing the element of distance. I just happen to know where I live and what the distance will be. 8 feet max for the normal viewing. From my person experiences that translates into what I said roughly.
Actually, my point has been that if a larger display does appeal to you, then a 768p 50' plasma can be had for around the same price as what you were looking to spend on a 42" 1080p model, and the extra display would provide you with more resolvable resolution at you your intended viewing distance despite the lower native resolution.I will actually look at 720p plasmas. If I could get a superb 42" plasma with an awesome scalar @720p I would put it high on the list.
I think now I will either try that or a bigger LCD. LCDs have their problems, but burn in (as it is HTPC) isn't one of them and they work good in daylight even if they suck in the dark. I am actually thinking now about getting an LCD and a projector for night watching later.
The blotchy/blocky issue is surely one of poor signal quality being more visible on the larger display, it is built with the same tech as the 42" is was next to. They are all good displays though, with what would be best depending on what features you'd benefit from. But again, at 8' from a 42" with 20/20 or less, you won't see any tangible benefit from those 1080p models over their 768p equivalents which can be had for a good bit less.
You don't rightly need any HD optical media drive to test, just some quality sample files stored on your laptop's HDD.I wish my laptop had a hddvd/bluray drive (it does have hdmi) so I could go hook it up to the TVs and play a decent source on them and then see how they look to me.