BTW still only 2 said I was being apologetic to GPP, again look at my recent posts and if you think that.
Back with just the HardOCP article (when the Grall discussion took place I think) a lot of the arguing was around that AMD would not be able to sell a gaming model GPU from an Nvidia partner.
One is still selling AMD 'Gaming' products as in the AMD 580 Gaming Box new launch, which due to Kyle's vagueness some meant would not be possible.
The argument could be shifted to say "ah but it is not under Aorus like the Nviida one", but Kyle was adamant no Gaming brands would be allowed for AMD products if you followed his posts or happily allowed to be reported as such by other publications from his article - context arguing from a position based on an article before we saw how it has started to pan out.
MSI Gaming is restricted to Nvidia (how serious an impact this is comes down to ones POV and perception of their Gaming X and Gaming Z models), but their website is more neutrally structured in terms of just two brand categories (not talking about model naming) being Nvidia and AMD;
In comparison Gigabyte has; Aorus, Xtreme Gaming, G1 Gaming, Nvidia, AMD - a bad situation but in retail you still clearly get Gaming model named AMD products even if it is not ideal because of Aorus without Gaming.
The Asus situation, some or many (no-one really knows) will not be happy unless the GPU says ROG STRIX rather than just STRIX.
But for now their website still shows all under ROG banner even though reports say they are only now sold as STRIX by retailers.
However both boxes for AMD and Nvidia only say STRIX and without ROG on it from what I can tell looking at current photos.
So not as clear cut as initial assumptions made it out to be unless one really wants to oversimplify it.
The only clear cut aspect so far is the tier partner relationship and whether in/out and its context (explained some of that earlier).
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Purpose of this post is to show just how inconsistent this is panning out relative to what was argued and assumed in the beginning (which is where earlier discussions started with Grall that you quoted against me) and this will change the level of impact based upon consumer behaviour
The consistent aspect that can be simplified is the partner relationship provided by the GPP which brings the relationship closer to what AMD has with Sapphire but on an industrial scale; something that AIB Partners pretty clearly feel is a pressure to miss out on and especially so if several partners sign up as they lose greater competitiveness.
The other partner relationship negative is if one also accepts Kyle's comment that Nvidia is blackmailing them with a nod and wink.
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Back with just the HardOCP article (when the Grall discussion took place I think) a lot of the arguing was around that AMD would not be able to sell a gaming model GPU from an Nvidia partner.
One is still selling AMD 'Gaming' products as in the AMD 580 Gaming Box new launch, which due to Kyle's vagueness some meant would not be possible.
The argument could be shifted to say "ah but it is not under Aorus like the Nviida one", but Kyle was adamant no Gaming brands would be allowed for AMD products if you followed his posts or happily allowed to be reported as such by other publications from his article - context arguing from a position based on an article before we saw how it has started to pan out.
MSI Gaming is restricted to Nvidia (how serious an impact this is comes down to ones POV and perception of their Gaming X and Gaming Z models), but their website is more neutrally structured in terms of just two brand categories (not talking about model naming) being Nvidia and AMD;
In comparison Gigabyte has; Aorus, Xtreme Gaming, G1 Gaming, Nvidia, AMD - a bad situation but in retail you still clearly get Gaming model named AMD products even if it is not ideal because of Aorus without Gaming.
The Asus situation, some or many (no-one really knows) will not be happy unless the GPU says ROG STRIX rather than just STRIX.
But for now their website still shows all under ROG banner even though reports say they are only now sold as STRIX by retailers.
However both boxes for AMD and Nvidia only say STRIX and without ROG on it from what I can tell looking at current photos.
So not as clear cut as initial assumptions made it out to be unless one really wants to oversimplify it.
The only clear cut aspect so far is the tier partner relationship and whether in/out and its context (explained some of that earlier).
Edit:
Purpose of this post is to show just how inconsistent this is panning out relative to what was argued and assumed in the beginning (which is where earlier discussions started with Grall that you quoted against me) and this will change the level of impact based upon consumer behaviour
The consistent aspect that can be simplified is the partner relationship provided by the GPP which brings the relationship closer to what AMD has with Sapphire but on an industrial scale; something that AIB Partners pretty clearly feel is a pressure to miss out on and especially so if several partners sign up as they lose greater competitiveness.
The other partner relationship negative is if one also accepts Kyle's comment that Nvidia is blackmailing them with a nod and wink.
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Toned down 23/03
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