Nvidia's 3000 Series RTX GPU [3090s with different memory capacity]

[DegustatoR]

I expect $999 for RTX 4080 and $1499 for 4090 so they can say that they have much better value for money when compared to 3090 Ti

This would put 4090 on the same mark as 3090 while 4080 would get a sizeable increase from 3080 for no apparent reason.
Comparing launch lineup to "Ti" versions can also be misleading since the latter are historically "refreshes" with better price/perf ratios. Not this time however. Most "Tis" in Ampere are cash grabs on mining price inflation.

 

[Samwell]

I expect $999 for RTX 4080 and $1499 for 4090 so they can say that they have much better value for money when compared to 3090 Ti

I don't think the 4080 will be so high. Nvidia is having too many cars with GA102 right now. Makes more sense to leave 4080TI, 4090 and 4090TI for AD102 and have AD103 in the 4080, 4070Ti and 4070. With the smaller chip i would expect it at 750-799$. AD102 and N31 will be all parts above 1k$.

 

[techuse]

4080 will be at least 899$ MSRP IMO. I think that’s the best case scenario. If the 600-850 watt range rumor is true it will probably be well over a grand.

 

[Samwell]

GA103 will be at 300-320W max TDP. Would fit very nice for a new 4080 with 3090+~30% for 750$. 850W is just nonsense and shows the leakers don't have real information.

 

[xpea]

This would put 4090 on the same mark as 3090 while 4080 would get a sizeable increase from 3080 for no apparent reason.
Comparing launch lineup to "Ti" versions can also be misleading since the latter are historically "refreshes" with better price/perf ratios. Not this time however. Most "Tis" in Ampere are cash grabs on mining price inflation.

Sorry I forgot to mention that 4080 is 12GB so at $999 it will be cheaper than current 12GB 3080 /Ti
It's all about perspective and what you compare to

 

[PSman1700]

nonsense and shows the leakers don't have real information.

We should have learned that a long time ago.

 

[DegustatoR]

Sorry I forgot to mention that 4080 is 12GB so at $999 it will be cheaper than current 12GB 3080 /Ti
It's all about perspective and what you compare to

Nah, 40 series will be 16-20-22/24, no 12GB cards above 4060.

 

[Pressure]

GA103 will be at 300-320W max TDP. Would fit very nice for a new 4080 with 3090+~30% for 750$. 850W is just nonsense and shows the leakers don't have real information.

They could have mixed it up with the recommended PSU size. I don't think normal desktop GPUs are going to be 400+ Watts. They all aren't halo products like the 3090 Ti.

 

[Samwell]

Nah, 40 series will be 16-20-22/24, no 12GB cards above 4060.

AD104 is just 192Bit and it will be in cards like the 4060. Has to be 12 GB. They won't give it 24Gb for sure.

 

[DegustatoR]

AD104 is just 192Bit and it will be in cards like the 4060. Has to be 12 GB. They won't give it 24Gb for sure.

Why would a 4060 need 24GB?
I think it will be pretty straightforward this time - 12-16-20-24, possibly with a 22 variant and some Titan class card with 48. Definitely don't see any 4080 with 12GBs - it's borderline insufficient even for GA102 already, would make zero sense for an upcoming generation which is supposed to provide a 2X bump in performance.

 

[Deleted member 2197]

I've seen the claim for AMD price increase before too, but at no point since then have the prices gone up so did it really happen?

I've read AMD had a 9% price hike between October and November on RX 6000 series, but haven't taken too much notice on this additional 10% TSMC increase. As for if and when it happens I can't say.

 

[xpea]

Nah, 40 series will be 16-20-22/24, no 12GB cards above 4060.

I don't know the final SKU, but 12GB 4080 AD102 PCB exists. Obviously, 20 and 24GB also exist but I think price may be too high

 

[DegustatoR]

I don't know the final SKU, but 12GB 4080 AD102 PCB exists. Obviously, 20 and 24GB also exist but I think price may be too high

It's the same PCB though.

 

[Man from Atlantis]

3090Ti seems to be more like a guinea pig to 4000 series if Igorslab's pin compatibility rumor is correct.

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NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti PCBs are designed to support next-gen RTX 40 “Ada” AD102 GPUs

The rumor was that RTX 3090 Ti cards are already designed for a next-gen GPU, codenamed AD102 “Ada”. A supposed pin-compatibility between GA102 and AD102 was communicated to NVIDIA board partners, who received a special 600W BIOS to prepare cooling solutions for next-gen RTX 40 series. This would speed up the development process and reduce the cost for the next series.

 

[Silent_Buddha]

600W? Holy snot. If true, I may soon be done with AAA gaming. There's no way I'm ever installing a video card that consumes over 300-350 watts in my machine.

Granted, that's probably for the top spec. GPU, but that likely indicates that all product tiers below that will also be getting a significant bump in power consumption.

Regards,
SB

 

[PSman1700]

600W? Holy snot. If true, I may soon be done with AAA gaming. There's no way I'm ever installing a video card that consumes over 300-350 watts in my machine.

Granted, that's probably for the top spec. GPU, but that likely indicates that all product tiers below that will also be getting a significant bump in power consumption.

Regards,
SB

I think its quite unusual for hardware (gpus in special) to draw their max tdp for most of the time generally when gaming. Maybe for a potentional 4090/Ti you'd be looking at that, but i doubt anyone spending that much on hardware is going to care that much i think. Its the top end monster-gpu, abit like with performance cars, you know what your getting into. Atleast im not seeing it too much of a downside when the mpg on the display of my car. It would indeed be different if say 4060/70, possibly 4080 products are seeing alot of tdp increases versus 30xx lineup.
It also depends on how much performance you are getting back for that. If say the 4080 sees a substantional performance increase over a 3080 then i understand it more.

 

[trinibwoy]

600W? Holy snot. If true, I may soon be done with AAA gaming. There's no way I'm ever installing a video card that consumes over 300-350 watts in my machine.

Why not? As long as it can be cooled quietly 600w is going to happen. There’s no other option as silicon physics isn’t keeping up with our appetite for more performance.

 

[Picao84]

Why not? As long as it can be cooled quietly 600w is going to happen. There’s no other option as silicon physics isn’t keeping up with our appetite for more performance.

Well, consoles are still under 300W for the whole package. My RTX3070 at 225W is at the limit I want as well, not going over 2x 8 pin designs.

 

[BRiT]

Well, consoles are still under 300W for the whole package.

Under 230 Watt draw from the wall.

 

[DegustatoR]

Well, consoles are still under 300W for the whole package. My RTX3070 at 225W is at the limit I want as well, not going over 2x 8 pin designs.

Most cards will likely be 12-pin PCIE5 in several years, with the exception of those which will use PCIE slot power only, of course.