Sure, but who cares?
If you can get close to the competition's performance for a lower cost while still reaching 90% of your customers, it's a reasonable trade-off. AMD has been doing for years.
The 384-bit interface for 7970 was dictated by HPC, IMO. That's where bandwidth is king.
Honestly, I don't know. A 7970 seems kind of overkill for a single 1080p monitor, to me anyway, but does the rest of the world feel the same? I've never seen any stats, so I don't know.
No stats here, but if I were to buy a new GPU, I'd go for a fast one, even if overkill. Money is often less of an objection than the space of 3 big monitors and the wife who complains about them.
Must be that slow European economy everyone keeps talking about (sorry)
Ok, fair enough. Let's see if/when they eventually catch up then.
Must be that slow European economy everyone keeps talking about (sorry)
or maybe he used more than 1 outlet as a bell weather of availability. So really you might want to actually look at more than just Newegg before you keep repeating some false broken mantra. They've been available at multiple locations (not always the same locations) every day since the 9th, so anyone who really wants one (ie someone willing to click on more than just newegg) would have no problem getting one in NA.
Who said anything about just newegg? http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/7970/. Of course you can get one, but that's not the point. The point is that volumes aren't sufficient for nVidia to start panicking and spreading FUD to slow sales.
So you have to be tripping over them before people would buy one over the competition? And that seems to be a change in tune from your previous post where you suggested you can barely find one in stock. And your link looks to track 3 whole sites, Tigerdirect, which has stock, newegg which doesn't, amazon which doesn't but if you actually looked on amazon you'll find a bunch of storefronts with stock.. There's 6 sites with stock linked in my previous post.
Yep, including the top two etailers in the US. Pretty good proxy for the market. You're still missing the point, which is that there's no urgent reason why nVidia needs to "spoil" the 7970 launch. To what effect? Sales are already obviously constrained, despite the fact you can "buy one".
Supply here in Canada seems pretty good, even BestBuy has plenty in stock: http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...spx?path=d73a3c6b2b226f4eb01ff5d8af1509a9en02
itsmydamnation
Veteran
do we think the 7950 is going to use the same PCB as the 7970? are we sure they are going to go with 3gig GDDR5?
if the 7950 is built purely for lowest possible price and 104 ends up where people are talking about, price points could be very interesting!
if the 7950 is built purely for lowest possible price and 104 ends up where people are talking about, price points could be very interesting!
Silent_Buddha
Legend
I'm not sure why you immediately jump to the conclusion that supply must be low if stock levels are constantly fluctuating. It could also be that supply is as high as it was for any previous enthusiast level card (well except GTX 480 which was pretty bad by most accounts) but that demand is just as high.
Basically, the only conclusion that we can come to is that demand is relatively equal to supply at this point.
But we can't go from there to either supply is low and hence demand is low or that supply is high and thus demand is high.
BTW - this next isn't aimed at you but just a more general comment.
It annoys me when people who favor one side or the other immediately claim that when stock levels fluctuate or are hard to maintain in stores one of the following is the reason...
1. If it's the company they like, then demand is sky high and hence why in store stock is low or nonexistant...
2. If it's the company they don't like, then supply is obviously really low otherwise you'd see better stock levels...
Regards,
SB
Just to add a little bit to that, sales aren't ever going to be particularly high for a high-end card anyway. With the relatively low volumes that are inherent in the high-end video card market, it's easier to run out of stock periodically for any product whose demand is relatively close to supply.
We also know that demand for $550 graphics cards is low. It's not rocket science
Just take a gander at where the 580's and 6970's of the world sit on Steam's charts.Precisely.
supply must be low, simply because every single factory in greater china is practically non-functional for almost 2 weeks.
We also know that demand for $550 graphics cards is low. It's not rocket science
Precisely.
Ehh, looking at an enthusiast gathering place like [H] forums, it seems like a LOT of people have already bought 7970's. Thus they didn't wait for anything. There was a thread something like "where to buy 7970" in the early days and it quickly grew very large, suggesting you know, a lot of people were buying 7970's.
I dont think you can state it's somehow not hurting Nvidia at all.
And if you're going on steam's charts..most people are probably playing on counter strike (which actually is constantly the most popular game on steam when you add up its varients, oh and "football manager 2012" apparently, surely vastly demanding) and gaming on 1280X1024 or something. In that case NONE of this Sea Islands/Kepler and the three generations prior either matters.
Speaking of [H] why have all of trinibwoy's post disappeared.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1666017
Quoted quite a bit, but all of his post are missing.
Manufacturing shutdown for CNY is about 1 week. It was known that it was going to occur so it has been planned for!
