NVIDIA Kepler speculation thread

[AnarchX]

9800 GTX was $300.

 

[Gipsel]

GTX680 has a GK104 afaik and that's a performance and not a high end chip. As to why they've decided to name it "680" Lord knows what marketing had in mind.

GK110 will be in the GTX690 and there will be no dual chip card this round?

 

[neliz]

GK110 will be in the GTX690 and there will be no dual chip card this round?

or GK110 is a dual GK104.. the plot thickens!

 

[Ailuros]

or GK110 is a dual GK104.. the plot thickens!

I don't think folks like Gipsel are as naive to believe your irritating jokes

GK110 will be in the GTX690 and there will be no dual chip card this round?

There's always GTX695 if needed or 699

 

[Alexko]

I don't think folks like Gipsel are as naive to believe your irritating jokes



There's always GTX695 if needed or 699

Or, knowing NVIDIA, GTX 780.

 

[LordEC911]

I seem to recall a GTS prefix in some of that really fake rumor/slides/chart from a month or so back.

 

[CarstenS]

Or the duallies get their own letter code. Geforce Ultra 690?

 

[Kaotik]

I seem to recall a GTS prefix in some of that really fake rumor/slides/chart from a month or so back.

GTS is midrange, but there was GTR on one of the fake slides

 

[Alexko]

I've been pinching myself for a few minutes now, but it looks like Charlie is indeed saying very good things about Kepler: http://semiaccurate.com/2012/01/19/nvidia-kepler-vs-amd-gcn-has-a-clear-winner/

 

[CarstenS]

Someone must've hacked his site.

 

[Man from Atlantis]

I've been pinching myself for a few minutes now, but it looks like Charlie is indeed saying very good things about Kepler: http://semiaccurate.com/2012/01/19/nvidia-kepler-vs-amd-gcn-has-a-clear-winner/

This is what Ailuros implies for so long, so nothing surprise here but it's interesting to hear this by Charlie (fav comment: Did hell just freeze over? lol).. about clear winning thing i am not sure it is raw performance or perf/mm2, perf/power, perf/price.. latter is more likely to me..

He's wrong.

You are right, He's corrected himself today..

 

[DuckThor Evil]

It's starting to look pretty good for the GK104. If nVidia actually managed to get huge perf/mm2 and perf/power increases then what kind of monster is the big one going to be later on?

 

[DarthShader]

It's a trap! He didn't say against which GCN card GK104 wins...

Seriously though, 256 bit bus? What kind of trick could be used there to make it work so well?

 

[Man from Atlantis]

Seriously though, 256 bit bus? What kind of trick could be used there to make it work so well?

Latest example is GTX560Ti has significantly lower bandwidth compare to GTX285 but it's 30% faster..

 

[trinibwoy]

Finally.....sheesh. Not quite what I was expecting from Charlie but I can't wait to see what he saw to deserve such gushing praise.

 

[DarthShader]

But there have been rather significant architecture changes in between. Hard to expect similar between a GF114 and GK104. With a 256bit bus, it will be at best 50% behind in bandwidth compared to a 7970... how much more bandwidth efficient can it be?? Maybe they're using XDR2 after all?

 

[psurge]

High mem clocks, larger caches, better compression, finer grained access (8x32 vs. 4x64)? Seriously though, if GK104 is supposed to be the mainstream part, I'm guessing he just means it'll win against whatever GCN part also has a 256 bit bus (78xx?).

 

[trinibwoy]

High mem clocks, larger caches, better compression, finer grained access (8x32 vs. 4x64)? Seriously though, if GK104 is supposed to be the mainstream part, I'm guessing he just means it'll win against whatever GCN part also has a 256 bit bus (78xx?).

That's not very newsworthy. GF114 is faster than Barts too in a mainstream showdown. The only way nVidia wins anything "handily" is to be well ahead on some metric - perf/$, perf/w or just overall performance.

 

[Man from Atlantis]

Maybe they're using XDR2 after all?

Forget it, He says He saw working cards alive, so if he saw the cards there must be memory chips planted on board and is there any vendor producing XDR2 atm?? no need to think that anyway he says GDDR5 in article already..

 

[DuckThor Evil]

That's not very newsworthy. GF114 is faster than Barts too in a mainstream showdown. The only way nVidia wins anything "handily" is to be well ahead on some metric - perf/$, perf/w or just overall performance.

Yeah the way it was worded imo says that despite these shortcomings it comes on top and those aren't shortcomings against a 78xx card.

The chip is quite small, and has 8 GDDR5 chips meaning a 256-bit bus/2GB standard, and several other features we can’t talk about yet due to differences between the cards seen. These items won’t change the outcome though, Nvidia wins, handily.