NVIDIA Kepler speculation thread

[ShaidarHaran]

Its more because this is mostly the minimum Boost speed ( warranty boost speed ) like with the 680.. many cards run way faster of it. I will not be surprised the cards will run at 11000+mhz most of the time.

( 680 =1058mhz boost clock but most run between 1084 -1100mhz ).



He speak about 770 specs ( so GK104 )

You are correct! My answer still applies, however. I run my GTX 680 in excess of 1300MHz when boost is applied, for example. GK104 has a lot of clockspeed headroom also.

 

[A1xLLcqAgt0qc2RyMz0y]

Nvidia Geforce GTX 780 detailed

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/31429-nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-detailed

Judging by the slides that we saw, the GTX 780, based on Nvidia 28nm GK110 GPU, packs 2304 CUDA cores and works at 863MHz base GPU clock. It feature Nvidia's GPU Boost 2.0 that takes it up to 900MHz for the GPU. It will feature 3GB of GDDR5 memory clocked at 6000MHz and paired up with a 384-bit memory interface. The GTX 780 needs 6+8-pin PCI-Express power connectors and has 250W TDP. It comes with two DL-DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort outputs.

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According to an Nvidia-made performance slide that we had a chance to see, which pits the new card to AMD's Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, the GTX 780 should end up anywhere between 25 and 50 percent faster than the HD 7970 GHz Edition, with exception of the Tomb Raider where it is faster by around 20 percent.

 

[A1xLLcqAgt0qc2RyMz0y]

Nvidia GTX 770 spec is out

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/31430-nvidia-gtx-770-detailed-as-well

Scheduled to be officially launched a week after the GTX 780, on May 30th, the GTX 770 will aim a similar price point as the Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition but will end up to be at least a bit faster.

As noted and rumored earlier, the GTX 770 will be a simple rebrand of the GTX 680, but with slightly higher clocks. It features 1536 CUDA cores and runs at 1046MHz base GPU clock. It also feature Nvidia GPU Boost 2.0 that will take the GPU up to 1085MHz when possible. It will be available with both 2GB and 4GB of memory, clocked at a pretty impressive 7000MHz and paired up with a 256-bit memory interface.


As it is based on a version of the GK104 chip it is no wonder that it needs 6+8-pin PCI-Express power connectors and has a 230W TDP. It will also feature two DL-DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort outputs. Judging by earlier leaks, pictures and some information that we saw, it will also use a reference cooler similar or same as the one on the GTX Titan. This means that the card will be significantly quieter.


Judging by the slides, it should end up anywhere between 10 and 20 percent faster than the HD 7970 GHz Edition and in some cases, like Tomb Raider, Crysis 3 and Max Payne 3, on par or just a tad bit faster.

 

[Silent_Buddha]

So, that means the 770 will be within 10-20% of the Geforce Titan. Where does that leave the 780? 5-10% faster than the 770? 5-10% slower than the Titan?

Regards,
SB

 

[lanek]

So, that means the 770 will be within 10-20% of the Geforce Titan. Where does that leave the 780? 5-10% faster than the 770? 5-10% slower than the Titan?

Regards,
SB

Dont forget, Its Fudzilla..

 

[RedVi]

Personally I wouldn't care if the 780 and 770 performed the same, I'd still go for the 780. GK110 is a far more future-proof GPU.

 

[lanek]

 

[Alexko]

Personally I wouldn't care if the 780 and 770 performed the same, I'd still go for the 780. GK110 is a far more future-proof GPU.

How so?

 

[Blazkowicz]

So they made the 780 384-bit afterall.
So there's more proofing if you like more bandwith but I fail to see the big difference, unless you want to run or develop CUDA programs that take benefit from it. A GTX 780 is great if you're a student in science or engineering (or if you're in that carreer already) and expect to run some GPGPU on your personal workstation.

A 4GB 770 or 760ti might be slightly more future proof if you favor memory size over performance.

 

[lanek]

Anyway its ironic how the spec of the 780 are so close of the 7970 outside a bit more shader cores.

7970 vs 780:

- 384bits vs 384bits
- 3GB vs 3GB - 6GB/s vs 6GB/s
- 900mhz vs 925mhz ( 1050mhz on the GHZ ) but its the min. turbo clock speed ( card should go as high of 950-985mhz ( some reviewer tell me just under 1ghz )
- 4.0 Tflops SP vs 4.0 Tflops SP
- (For the DP i got contradict numbers right now )
- 2304 vs 2048 SP

12.5% more shader, this should translate on software to something like 15-20% more performance .

So they made the 780 384-bit afterall.
So there's more proofing if you like more bandwith but I fail to see the big difference, unless you want to run or develop CUDA programs that take benefit from it. A GTX 780 is great if you're a student in science or engineering (or if you're in that carreer already) and expect to run some GPGPU on your personal workstation.

A 4GB 770 or 760ti might be slightly more future proof if you favor memory size over performance.

I have got different numbers from source on DP, so... its a bit hard to know yet, I will need wait tomorrow ( i hope, maybe not before the 23 ), but or they have cut on DP performance, or they use the same switch system you have on Titan.

 

[DSC]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/05/17/n...e-year-old-gtx-690-in-just-3-months-were-not/

I had a chat with Ben Berraondo, the senior PR manager for GeForce, about the GTX Titan earlier this week. “Even we were surprised just how popular the Titan was. And still is,” he said. “Titan sold a lot more than the GTX 690, for example. It’s still selling very well.”

 

[ShaidarHaran]

I'm quite tempted by the 780, even as an overclocked 680 owner. For me though it all comes down to 2 things.

1) price
2) 4k support

If it's more than $599 I'm out and if it doesn't support 4k then it's a no-go.

 

[lanek]

I'm quite tempted by the 780, even as an overclocked 680 owner. For me though it all comes down to 2 things.

1) price
2) 4k support

If it's more than $599 I'm out and if it doesn't support 4k then it's a no-go.

I will be honest with you, if you can wait.. wait.. 780 and 700 series are not made for stay long.

Nvidia will replace them with maxwell in less of 9 months, and AMD will come during this time with their volcanic island cards.

The gain are not terrible... outside maybe DP for GK110 vs GK104..
As i was show, the cards have identic spec of the 7970 who have been released 17months ago .

4K support is allready there anyway no ? AMD series 7000 and Nvidia 600 allready support it. ( they have both made demo of it, if im right . they can support 2x the 4K res with surround and eyfinity so 4K on a screen is not a problem right now ( the problem is to find a TV with Displayport for full 60fps 4K )

 

[Blazkowicz]

Yes they might cripple the DP. But maybe not, we have Titan and 7970 with uncrippled DP. Do they want a small backlash or a small market segmentation gain.

I'm waiting for the Kayla GPU to be announced as a desktop board by the way. Will that be a really low watt chip?, passive cooling?, power management..

 

[lanek]

Yes they might cripple the DP. But maybe not, we have Titan and 7970 with uncrippled DP. Do they want a small backlash or a small market segmentation gain.

I'm waiting for the Kayla GPU to be announced as a desktop board by the way. Will that be a really low watt chip?, passive cooling?, power management..

kayla ? ( not heard it for a while ).

If you want do home cpmputing ( outside CUDA ), take just a S10000. ( if you dont need ECC, take 3-4x 7990, with a worskation MB and 2 Xeon onboard or for cheapest way, 2x Opteron 32cores ( its allways make me something when i open the cores usage graphics with 64 cores ).

4x 7990 will bring you near to 16Tflops SP and a beautifull 4Tflops DP .. ( + the CPU's ) .

 

[ShaidarHaran]

I will be honest with you, if you can wait.. wait.. 780 and 700 series are not made for stay long.

Nvidia will replace them with maxwell in less of 9 months, and AMD will come during this time with their volcanic island cards.

The gain are not terrible... outside maybe DP for GK110 vs GK104..
As i was show, the cards have identic spec of the 7970 who have been released 17months ago .

This is all speculative. Who knows when the 20nm process will be ready? Besides, if the next gen is worthwhile I'll buy that too. I'm looking for 4k support and better performance now, without having to go SLI.

4K support is allready there anyway no ? AMD series 7000 and Nvidia 600 allready support it. ( they have both made demo of it, if im right . they can support 2x the 4K res with surround and eyfinity so 4K on a screen is not a problem right now ( the problem is to find a TV with Displayport for full 60fps 4K )

4k support is not there on current NV consumer graphics cards. The *only* model which supports it is the Titan. I'm not spending $1000 on a single graphics card.

 

[lanek]

This is all speculative. Who knows when the 20nm process will be ready? Besides, if the next gen is worthwhile I'll buy that too. I'm looking for 4k support and better performance now, without having to go SLI.



4k support is not there on current NV consumer graphics cards. The *only* model which supports it is the Titan. I'm not spending $1000 on a single graphics card.

Oups, my bad, i was think 600 series support it defacto ( AMD 7000 support it without problem ).. i think its just a question of driver.. if Nvidia can do it with Surround, they can do it without it. Titan have nothing different of GK104 in term of video/ display output. ( now if we speak about performance and memory needs, this is another story ). It look like just a software limitation.

About next generations... well we know the AMD ones are for end of the year, and we know too they have jump over a generation.. and for nvidia we know too they will launch maxwell in 2014.

I know 2013 is a troubling year on GPU sides, we got the feeling the actual cards are still new, but in reality they are not..

But im in the same seat, if the 780 is priced right, i could maybe take 2.. ( i allways use SLI or CFX since the 6600GT SLI edition )

 

[iMacmatician]

I'm waiting for the Kayla GPU to be announced as a desktop board by the way. Will that be a really low watt chip?, passive cooling?, power management..

If you mean GK208 then GPU-Z lists GK208 versions of GT 630 and GT 640.

This is all speculative. Who knows when the 20nm process will be ready?

Also it's not impossible that Maxwell and/or Volcanic Islands are on 28 nm.

 

[jimbo75]

ignore, my bad.

 

[lanek]

If you mean GK208 then GPU-Z lists GK208 versions of GT 630 and GT 640.

Also it's not impossible that Maxwell and/or Volcanic Islands are on 28 nm.

Actually its a big mistery ( i have never seen a so much mistery about a process ) ..

timlelines can make think, AMD, one time again, could be the first to use it , this will explain why they have cancel Sea Island ... ( basicallly, they will jump one generation ) .. ( we Know Nvidia need absolutely the 20 nm for maxwlell )

TSMC have start last month to build a new lines for product 20nm chips ( the line will be ready before the end of the year ( 3 to 6 month ) but the first line is still up to date ..

I will need Dave Baumann to respond to this.. is the first line is reserved to AMD ? and this explain , TSMC is building this second line for Nvidia .. ( its not anymore a secret )