NVIDIA GT200 Rumours & Speculation Thread
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No it doesn't make Nvidia cards perform worse, it only makes some other card perform better.
Any screen shots showing improved AA? [H]'s review stated other than the broken AF on AMD's cards, they noticed only lighting contrast difference between Nvidia/AMD's IQ.
Blazkowicz
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every vendor sucks at one point or another. I forgave ATI for the ATI rage pro being such a piece of shit , everyone seems to have forgiven nvidia for geforce FX, and Intel for the Pentium 4 (which is a terrible pain in laptops)
my A7V with KT133 sucked but that may have been partly because of Asus, my KT333 mobo with USB2 southbridge was really fine and didn't have the nforce 2 bug, nvidia chipsets are said to be crap nowadays (and the ethernet stuff is broken on my nforce 5 and my buddy's nforce 4 mobo)
I'll miss the option of VIA chipset. or even ULI who offered AGP+PCIe mobo with a surprisingly solid reputation.
VIA had so many issues it aint funny. backwards engineered AGP that didn't work right until after they agreed to pay a licence to Intel and then did it work right. 1, count them, 1 set of drivers MS will support for XP. a southbridge that caused havok with SB cards.
When it comes to Nvidia, they need to get their head on straight when it comes to drivers andsupporting software for their chispets as the hardware itself is, for the most part ok if you wait 6 months. I've never had issues with my NForce based NICs(NF1-NF6 I have owned), then again I dont install nvidias IDE/SATA drivers(I use windows drivers) or their NIC support software either just the NIC driver and it works fine.
People should propably stop installing the entire NF driver/software package when they build machines and I'm willing to bet almost all issues would go away.
Silent_Buddha
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Try telling that to some of the poor sods using Nforce 2/3 chipsets with Vista.
I was helping 2 friends migrate to Vista, but they were having random BSOD's. Something I honestly hadn't seen on my own machines and very rarely on others. After much to do with testing components in another machine. It finally came down to the motherboards causing it. Joy.
Yet here I've helped people with older ULi, ATI, Intel, SiS, and even one VIA machine who have had flawless transitions. Well flawless once you convince them not to use their Creative Live/Audigy cards.
As far as I'm concerned. Nvidia chipsets are the new VIA chipsets with regards to quality. Which is strange since their Workstation boards with their chipsets are pretty darn solid.
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SB
I was helping 2 friends migrate to Vista, but they were having random BSOD's. Something I honestly hadn't seen on my own machines and very rarely on others. After much to do with testing components in another machine. It finally came down to the motherboards causing it. Joy.
Yet here I've helped people with older ULi, ATI, Intel, SiS, and even one VIA machine who have had flawless transitions. Well flawless once you convince them not to use their Creative Live/Audigy cards.
As far as I'm concerned. Nvidia chipsets are the new VIA chipsets with regards to quality. Which is strange since their Workstation boards with their chipsets are pretty darn solid.
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SB
MulciberXP
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You can go by your own sample of one all you want but forums agree nVidia chipset issues abound. After my nForce4 fiascos it will take years for nVidia to earn my trust in their chipsets again. So far from what I've seen, they haven't even started yet.
edit; wow, how do I delete this post. after reading this dumb VIA tangent I forgot what thread I was in.
uuuuh...hope the GT200 is fast!
Any source? I think such a big difference is unbelievable but IF true it could be very nice
i am sorry but you are dreaming
the Old GTX is just at a disadvantage compared to the new one
expect twice as fast - with the usual marketing spin
i guess i can finally post here .. same day i left ATF
I hope G100 is min. 2x8800GTX in every situation cause then ill maybe buy it
In very high resolutions with AA it would be a real disappointment if that wouldn't be the case.
Hold on the Rage Pro being a PoS? .. you aren't talking about the Rage Fury 32 are you?
That was my first ATi GPU and i think i paid about $200-250 for it. i liked it a lot especially the IQ; i remember playing MDK2 and noticing how much more vibrant the colors were than on my GeForce32-SDR [SGRAM, i think] which was admittedly much faster.
they do .. it's called "get in the game", i think.
Looks like Nvidia is talking about something in two weeks - http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/02/nvidia-throws-party
Hopefully Charlie gets the scoop before then.
Hopefully Charlie gets the scoop before then.
Of course .. and do you realize the "why"
ATi went broke .. they had to go to ailing AMD to join forces because ATi wanted to help AMD with their CPU-GPU vision of Fusion
- they over engineered their x1900 series and although it was successful it was also too expensive for them
AMD is too broke to pay attention; it is all *priorities* .. nVidia is cash right can buy anyone they want with really attractive and helpful programs for the dev.
Good gawd, nVidia just released that incredible tool to help devs "see it our way" in creating games; some of the most helpful info i have seen anywhere.
Yet, nVidia is also overbearing and irritates the people they work with
AMD - if it survives - will also get back "into the game" - imo
- they are just struggling to catch up
[imo]
Jawed
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I can't remember what the typical interval is between "editor's day" and a launch.
Is this actually going to be a "launch editor's day"? Or is it cynical anti-marketing against a similarly scheduled ATI day? Or, does NVidia schedule one for the middle of May each year?
Jawed
I don't think so, ATi was quite healthy at the time of the buyout. The problem with R580 was marketing, G71 was an inferior chip, but nVidia backed it up with solid marketing lies. ATi, although they could back up their chip with true numbers, didn't do a thing.
It seems to me there's too little buzz about GT200 for it to be released so soon. But perhaps nVidia has properly sealed every hole that could leak information...
You just agreed with me!
ATi had a very expensive "over engineered" GPU, x1900 series while G71 was "good enough" and it made nVidia tons of cash.
At ATF video i predicted G80 .. if i could do it, i know ATi saw the writing on the wall and went right away to AMD to start talks - that is "history"; we know ATi went to AMD to help them with Fusion. And 2900xt was delayed because it was not up to AMD's own standards when they decided to change their strategy and go after the GTS midrange instead of the GTX. imo, ATi would have brought out a "dustbuster" if they were in charge of it before AMD stopped them
I also predicted 6 weeks ago on their forum that "GT 200 was Ready and simply WAITING for r700's launch" - which i also said would be "by june"; it is all there if you want me to link it for you
i really try to watch the trends and my knowledge of nvidia/amd/ati/intel past histories makes it relatively easy to predict the near-future; which i love to do and i scour the 'net for real tidbits that were reliable previously ... for fun
Well if you look only at nVidia's profits, then yes. It's kinda sad that people let themselves be ripped off like that.
We do?
I believe that is not the case. I would be happy to discuss it with you, however I don't think this is the right thread...
I believe you, but I don't agree. If they can already manufacture the cards, they could sell it at insanely high price points because of the lack of competition.
Me too (and unlike you, I'm being paid for it
)No, he's talking about the Rage Pro. It was ATI's attempt at finally matching Voodoo1 but also having 2D. Rage Pro was a bug-ridden mess because of ATI's horribly awful drivers of the time. They even came out with "Turbo" drivers back then that actually slowed games down but sped up benchmarks.
And I also agree that NVIDIA chipsets haven't been the best. I have also had better luck with VIA KT266A and later than NVIDIA's stuff (NF2 and 4). The nForce chipsets are ok as long as you figure out the features not to enable and which drivers not to install.
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