NVIDIA GT200 Rumours & Speculation Thread

NVIDIA shakened by Radeon HD 4800, lowers prices?

 

As expected. Excellent. More competition = win for consumers

 

I just wonder what GTX260 will be like.
I won't be interested in 4850/4870, because by the looks of it, they won't deliver more performance than today's high-end.
GTX280 will probably be in the insane price regions of 8800Ultra and 9800GX2.
So I hope GTX260 is significantly faster than 9800GTX/4870, while still being around 300 euros. In which case I'll pick one up. Else I'll just stick with my 8800GTS until something worthwhile comes around.

 

I wouldn't count on it at least during this year.

 

Why not? Unless the GTX260 is going to be *really* fast, 300e seems to be a very logical price point.
9800GTX are already at 230-260e here.
GTX260 can sit nicely in the 300-350e slot, while GTX280 will be 500e or so.

 

GTX260 have the same core as GTX280. Those prices kill completly all the Nvidia margins there. They came from the same waffers.

Also if they price GTX260 on that price, anyone will buy the GTX280.

ATI has a big chance to get market share back with RV770. That´s almost certain.

 

They'll have to price the 260 (somewhat) competitively with the 4870 if the numbers put it there, but if yields are good enough for the 280 they may not care to compete all that much in that (lower price) bracket. Which could possibly make the 260 a more supply limited part.

If yields are bad on the 280, you'll probably see more aggressive 260 pricing.

 

I wonder how NVIDIA would fill the gap between G92b and GTX260 ?

 

Like Chris suggested earlier; GTX 260 448MB. Although I doubt how much savings that would result in ..

 

Well all the rumours suggest the 4870 should be a good deal faster than a 9800GTX (if that's what you call high-end rather than some multi-gpu setup).

GTX260 certainly should be faster than a 9800GTX (manufacturing cost will be much, much higher so it better be significantly faster!). I dunno if all rumours about bad yields etc. are true both GTX260 and GTX280 could remain low-volume, high-priced parts - though availability of a cheap HD4870 (if it's not that much slower) could probably put some pressure on the GTX260 price. Haven't really seen anything though yet that the HD4870 will actually be available in more than review quantities initially... I guess we'll need to wait and see...

 

Keep cutting clusters and MC?
7 cluster, 168SP w/ 384bit and 24ROPs? Can't go much lower than that without being able to increase clocks...
I would think each die is more costly than 448mb of GDDR3.

 

Looks like the GT200 cards might end up priced lower, putting them in a more aggressive position:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7853&Itemid=1

This is interesting news, but it sounds like the 4870 card especially might perform near parity with the GTX 260, giving a real run for its money if the reports are true:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7854&Itemid=1

 

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/12/gt200-scores-revealed

interesting.

 

Wow. Charlie must really dislike nVIDIA. And thats an understatement!

 

http://images.vnu.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/12/gt200-scores-revealed/nv_gt200_numbers.jpg

35 fps in Crysis in high , and without AA not is very impressive ... in any map

http://www.behardware.com/articles/711-12/test-nvidia-geforce-9800-gtx.html

 

Don't jump to conclusions solely based on those two...

 

I wouldn't be surprised if NVidia has a special Crysis driver - they'd want to keep something up their sleeve.

Jawed

 

Because they most probably won't have to.
GTX260 should be quite a lot faster than 4870, GTX280 is in it's own league.
And yes i'm aware of the supposed 4870 3DMark scores.
What everyone seems to forget is that R6x0 were very fast in 3DMark also.
350 sounds about right but i'd expect more like 400-450 at least for the first couple of months for GTX260.
But we'll see...

 

The driver 177.26 is also outdated i believe.
Heck, its already leaked on the interweb.

 

I forgot to mention that a new release of Forceware is on the way