NVIDIA GT200 Rumours & Speculation Thread

[sunscar]

He's referring to the fact that you are already trying to justify a purchase (that you haven't even made yet!) because all the evidence points to another card being faster than the one you plan to purchase.



Everyone? I don't care (and I would imagine most will agree with me) if it takes AMD 3824792 cores on one PCB to beat Nvidia (as long as it's not stupid expensive).



You don't. Everyone got it but no one thought it was funny or even believed for a second that it was a good point.

That doesn't mean everyone has to be dickish about it, though, does it? Can we end this derail, now, please?

I dont know about you guys, but id prefer single GPU solutions over multi GPU solutions. There are just too many headaches involved with the multi GPU solutions (+ its limitations) even if it performs couple more framerates than a single GPU solution.

It's not precisely the same situation in this case though - It's not multi-GPU in the typical sense of bridging a couple boards together, or even a couple chips together on one board. The dies detailed here are essentially a collection of what previously would have been completely independant cores.

 

[willardjuice]

I dont know about you guys, but id prefer single GPU solutions over multi GPU solutions. There are just too many headaches involved with the multi GPU solutions (+ its limitations) even if it performs couple more framerates than a single GPU solution.

R700 will be a multiple GPU architecture. Will not be CrossFire on a card. The architecture is being designed from the ground up to be "multiple GPU."

http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1031906993&postcount=28

That doesn't mean everyone has to be dickish about it, though, does it? Can we end this derail, now, please?

Perhaps I was too mean, but apoppin needs to learn how to make a coherent post.

 

[trinibwoy]

I dont know about you guys, but id prefer single GPU solutions over multi GPU solutions. There are just too many headaches involved with the multi GPU solutions (+ its limitations) even if it performs couple more framerates than a single GPU solution.

Many people would agree with you but AMD will rightfully claim the performance crown with the X2 should it hold up in games versus the GTX 280. After all, Nvidia relied on their own X2 to claim the crown this time around.

In spite of all the leaks we still don't know much about the performance of the upcoming parts though. Which means there's still a lot of room for surprises. A comparison between 9600GT SLI and the 8800GTS demonstrates how vastly bandwidth/fillrate bottlenecked the processor core on G92 was. Maybe those 32 ROPs and 140GB/s of bandwidth on GT200 can let the architecture spread its wings a bit.

 

[apoppin]

http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1031906993&postcount=28



Perhaps I was too mean, but apoppin needs to learn how to make a coherent post.

i would call it rude. It was coherent but you are picking on me for a single comment you might have made yourself.
- look, i won't use sarcasm again since is it evidently lost on some of you. i promise, never again.

http://www.tomshardware.com/cn/387,news-387.html

It looks really fast. Isn't it clocked around 600? This card might have some real O/C'ing potential . Yes, there is still a LOT of room for surprises imo. We will need to wait for the official benches; but i am pretty certain i prefer the single core beast - it is not justification!

 

[suryad]

Wow things are definitely heating up. I have been reading this thread more than posting in it but I cant wait for these cards to be released, reviewed so I can satisfy my curiosity. Since I have an SLI board I already know which direction I will be going in but kudos to ATI for having turned something positive in their direction...I know AMD will be happy especially since Anandtech previewed the Nehalem and its WOW!

 

[Arty]

I thought this was interesting (funny).

 

[ShaidarHaran]

A multi-GPU beating a single-GPU is kinda irrelevant.

No.

Price to performance ratio matters.

Minimum framerate matters.

Average framerate matters.

Latency between frames matters.

You don't have these figures, so your statement is purely opinion.

 

[ShaidarHaran]

http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1031906993&postcount=28

Argh, why is Kyle the only one on my side I don't even like the guy...

In all seriousness though, I do hope R700 is more than CF on a card. ATi (and NV) need to get multi-GPU working properly. Obviously it's the way forward. If they don't get scaling in line, we're going to be looking at 16 GPU systems that only perform 2-3x better than a system using only 1 of the same GPU.

 

[annihilator]

If 4870x2 hasn't somehow magically solved all the stuttering problems that make all SLI/CF/x2/GX2 setups practically worthless, I'd even prefer a GTX 260 to a 4870x2.

 

[ShaidarHaran]

If 4870x2 hasn't somehow magically solved all the stuttering problems that make all SLI/CF/x2/GX2 setups practically worthless, I'd even prefer a GTX 260 to a 4870x2.

You and me both. Probably could add just about every B3D forum user to that list too

 

[INKster]

I'd like to know exactly what is this "grey area" between Crossfire/SLI and single-GPU's (which are, by their very nature, multi-core dedicated processors anyway) that Kyle talked about.

I see no obvious ease of manufacturing/cost/configuration flexibility characteristics in it.

 

[annihilator]

You and me both. Probably could add just about every B3D forum user to that list too

I'd say "except ChrisRay" for his flamboyant performance in the "SLI/CF Sync." thread; but then I realized he wouldn't probably use a Radeon product.

 

[Bludd]

You don't have these figures, so your statement is purely opinion.

Yes, it is. I will edit my post and add an "IMO" qualifier.

 

[ShaidarHaran]

Yes, it is. I will edit my post and add an "IMO" qualifier.

Thanks Not many would do the same.

 

[Razor1]

Argh, why is Kyle the only one on my side I don't even like the guy...

In all seriousness though, I do hope R700 is more than CF on a card. ATi (and NV) need to get multi-GPU working properly. Obviously it's the way forward. If they don't get scaling in line, we're going to be looking at 16 GPU systems that only perform 2-3x better than a system using only 1 of the same GPU.

At this point why is there talk about a 2gb r700? Would they use that much ram if they didn't need to?

 

[ChrisRay]

I'd say "except ChrisRay" for his flamboyant performance in the "SLI/CF Sync." thread; but then I realized he wouldn't probably use a Radeon product.

Heh I have a 3870X2. But thanks for the pot shot. I love this trend "Lets all hate Multi GPU" all of a sudden.

 

[annihilator]

Sure I do it just for the trend. It's not actually real that I have a 8800GT SLI setup.

 

[ChrisRay]

Heh I dont doubt that you have an 8800GT SLI setup. Its the most common SLI setup I see.

 

[BRiT]

I love this trend "Lets all hate Multi GPU" all of a sudden.

I don't know why others have jumped onto that wagon just recently. I've always been open of my dislike of Multi-GPU since it no longer "just works" like 3dfx V2 or V5 did. My biggest complaints have always been Multi-Monitor setups and lack of proper workload Tiling. Until they can fix both issues, it won't be for me.

 

[ChrisRay]

I don't know why others have jumped onto that wagon just recently. I've always been open of my dislike of Multi-GPU since it no longer "just works" like 3dfx V2 or V5 did. My biggest complaints have always been Multi-Monitor setups and lack of proper workload Tiling. Until they can fix both issues, it won't be for me.

Well. While technically its under NDA. I dont see any harm in mentioning it. I dont have exact dates but I do know the driver revision and multi monitor is not far off with SLI. So one of your grievances is at least soon due to be fixed.

Chris