I wonder what would happen if only people who were actually in the market for a $1000 GPU got to comment on the 5080. Yea it’s a completely pointless upgrade from the 4080 but I doubt it’s 4080 owners who are carpet bombing the internet right now.
I wonder what would happen if only people who were actually in the market for a $1000 GPU got to comment on the 5080. Yea it’s a completely pointless upgrade from the 4080 but I doubt it’s 4080 owners who are carpet bombing the internet right now.
In terms of the data something like 50% of discrete GPU sales are to laptops. I haven't found strict estimates for desktop sales but inferring based on the state of the market I have to assume the majority of prebuilts and SI. When you have retail DIY left well again it's unlikely even retail DIY is upgrading gen on gen as the majority. I recall this was over a decade ago I think Nvidia mentioning at that time the majority of people upgraded after 2 cycles and that was what they were targeting back then, however I think it's likely the upgrade cycle is even longer now (and this is trend we see in other similar spaces as well).
With the above we can obviously see an issue then in terms of analyzing product decisions based on how it compares to last gen when it's likely not the priority in the overall decision making process. Yes the RTX 5080 is not a compelling upgrade for RTX 4080 owners and Nvidia failed in in terms of doing that basically via incomplete/did not attempt. So really the discussion would likely make sense if it shifted towards how much priority Nvidia (and others) should be designing this to target gen on gen upgrades, what that would mean, and whether or not that is even possible nowadays.
As for who's complaining or just commenting in general personally I've always felt (and this stretches back over 20 years now) the majority of commenting on this stuff is just for the sake of commenting and debating on it. The online hardware debate/discussion is it's own hobby by itself.
