NV30- the fan will last how long, we must dust it how often?

[Username]

OpenGL guy, at least paraphrase accurately if you are going to. At resolutions people use does not mean at every resolution.

And I guess I should qualify the 2.5 times statement as grossly distorted representation of speed abstracted from settings that are unusable, since the cheerleaders dont seem to quite get the inference. Although I think Nvidia is fairly confident that they will have thier performance advantage at niche settings to tout if it became important.

Not too much longer to wait now before you can kick the spin to the R350, or at least more of the same silly arguments in the GeForce 4 vs. Radeon 8500 high end era.

 

[OpenGL guy]

Hmm... I guess the "dustbuster" description used by one of the sites is not all that incorrect then

Maybe the chip gets hot enough to incinerate dust so that it can't block airflow

On a serious note, I thought that the "air filter" someone mentioned previously were actually the heat radiating fins. Someone had reported (from Comdex, I believe) that they were hot to the touch, so that sounds reasonable.

 

[Entropy]

GFFX

Will BLOW you away and then SUCK you dry (c)TM

Omg.
You don't happen to be part of the nVidia PR team that made those promo videos, do you? If not, go talk to them, talent such as yours would fit right in and help propel them to new heights of commercial expression!

While banal, I think g_day has a point - it does seem like a (good) system that would clog up in fairly short order. Not on my computer though - it wouldn't be able to affect the dust behind my PC-box much, it would be like a snake trying to swallow an elephant.

Entropy

 

[OpenGL guy]

OpenGL guy, at least paraphrase accurately if you are going to. At resolutions people use does not mean at every resolution.

Hmm, that's not what you said before:

By nearly any metric the NV30 is faster than the R300, across all resolutions.

And I guess I should qualify the 2.5 times statement as grossly distorted representation of speed abstracted from settings that are unusable, since the cheerleaders dont seem to quite get the inference. Although I think Nvidia is fairly confident that they will have thier performance advantage at niche settings to tout if it became important.

If so, then they haven't said so. The only results we have seen are from nvidia, performed by nvidia and, in one case, on a custom demo created by nvidia. That's not overwhelming me with credibility.

Not too much longer to wait now before you can kick the spin to the R350, or at least more of the same silly arguments in the GeForce 4 vs. Radeon 8500 high end era.

Please find one quote from me touting the 8500 over the GeForce 4. What? Didn't find any? Then maybe you should save your barbs for the proper targets. Better yet, don't post them at all.

 

[flf]

On a serious note, I thought that the "air filter" someone mentioned previously were actually the heat radiating fins.

No, that's the radiator inside of the plastic on the lower channel. The filter is a small square of fiber that slips on the back plate over the intake hole.

You know... I think I need a large round case I can call the Deathstar. With a GFFX it will have a thermal exhaust port just below the main port. You know what that means...

 

[RussSchultz]

Gah. A whole thread devoted to big fan jokes. How will my heart take it?

Even better, there's personal attacks and barbs scattered through the thread.

Could we frame this one for posterity? (especially now that I've added my little bit of whining)

 

[AzBat]

Russ,

Can't frame it until we complain about your complaining. There you go!

Tommy McClain

 

[Bambers]

lol.

You wouldn't want any bugs/spiders setting up home in the intake port overnight.

*turn on*
*shluuuup ... splat* and a few legs fly out of the back

Hmm it could be a minature dyson. New dual cyclone cooling technology (TM)

 

[Entropy]

Gah. A whole thread devoted to big fan jokes. How will my heart take it?

Even better, there's personal attacks and barbs scattered through the thread.

Could we frame this one for posterity? (especially now that I've added my little bit of whining)

What? You implying this thread doesn't fit under "3D Technology and Hardware" but should actually be under "General Bitching"?

We need some ham-fisted moderation here. <blank> (no longer with the site)! Call in the mods!

Edited by John Reynolds: There 'ya go! 8)

Ent

 

[LittlePenny]

Sir, its NV30, she's gone from suck to blow!

 

[BRiT]

I wonder how on earth they prevent sucking in the hot air that they just blew out...

<sarcasm>
It's their Gandalf Filter™. "Hot air, you will not pass!"
</sarcasm>


--|BRiT|

 

[Entropy]

ffs

 

[Geeforcer]

LMAO... I bet this will get John in trouble.

 

[John Reynolds]

LMAO... I bet this will get John in trouble.

Bah! I'm twice Dave's size.

 

[BRiT]

Bah! I'm twice Dave's size.

TMI! :uke::



--|BRiT|

 

[Sharkfood]

Has anyone seen a fanless powersupply on mainstream PC's lately? I wonder how often I'll have to clean that, or if it will jam making my motherboard a lightbulb.

Hey, this would actually make a good example if it had even the slightest comparison to the point at hand- power supply fans are EXHAUST fans, so therefore wont be sucking the same scale of debris into the fan bearings.

If you are going to make a completely irrelevent and totally unrelated comparison, you should have picked the power LED light.. or floppy drive motor. These last hella long and would have made your comparison seem stronger with the same amount of relevency.

Like I stated, on my case, I've replaced the front case INTAKE fans a number of times as they do indeed get packed up and need cleaning fairly often. Floor mounted tower cases on carpeted surfaces are going to inhale lint and debris, no matter how much vacuuming you do around the area. As case fans are only a couple bucks, I dont bother and just replace them.

The real question will be- how long will this fan last, if there is some form of convenient replacement if they do clog/jam up, and how well the little sponge/filter works on the intake port of the card slot.

 

[noko]

I wonder if you have alot of cables in the back of your pc that it would block airflow to the suck/blow device for the GF fx? Raising tempertures to a critical level at that. Anyways, all in all, the GF fx sucks and blows at the same time to boot. A double wammy award.

 

[Geeforcer]

Bah! I'm twice Dave's size.

Let's not kid ourselves, weight != size.

 

[Althornin]

all kidding aside, i DO wonder how they prevent the "recycling" of hot air...
The intake being right next to the hot air output seems like a poor idea. Maybe there is a little plastic "shroud" that has the mysterious filter on it, and funnels air out one one side and air in on the other.

 

[cellarboy]

I'm still amazed that Nvidia honestly believe that having to strap this cooler to thier chip to get it to run at the speed they require is a marketable feature. FX Flow indeed....

Did NV mention anywhere that they've integrated any kind of thermal protection circuitry into this? That is, should the fan go, will the board lower it's clock speed or shut down the PC to protect your expensive board from doing an impression of an Athlon without a heatsink?