Alexok:
"nVidia are confident that NV30 will come out in time for Christmas and will be in large enough quantaties for everyone... "
Uh-huh. Riiight... They're just SAYING this of course, they don't really have any control over it. They haven't even got first silicon yet, WOE THEM if they need more than one re-spin. I seriously doubt they'll have finished boards "for everyone" anytime this year considering all the verifying/debug work that will have to be done on both hardware and software, plus everything has to go out to production/boxing, ship out to retailers etc... All this takes time.
"And I still stick to what I think: NV30 will be released shortly after the annoucement on Comdex."
Released to Anand, Tom and Kyle in reality, on paper to everyone else MAYBE. On Nvidia reference boards, not production boards. Comdex's like mid-november, right? I say, FORGET IT. First silicon is end of october from the fab. Short of an act of god on Nvidia's behalf, it would be a virtual impossibility for them to release anything shortly after comdex unless it's paper only with a few samples to prominent websites to try and take wind out of the R300-sails. WOE THEM again if ATI gets an R350 refresh out the door around christmas though, but to be frank I don't think that will happen. ATI wants to pump as much cash out of this generation as they can I suppose...
And the only-128-bit memory rumors are doing the rounds again, but you said you had 'sources' assuring you it was 256-bit. I tell ya this Alex... You better PRAY they'll come through for you on this or your cred's shot to hell around here.
Of course, Nvidia might surprise me and pull a miracle out of their pocket, but I'm sceptical. They will pull through in the end though. Nvidia fumbled the ball this time 'round but they'll bounce back next gen (and ATI damn well better not get complacent like they were when THEY had all the OEM contracts!). No doubt about NV's strength long-term, but it seems likely announcement of next gen will be towards summer 2003 rather than mid-february like we're used to. Else NV30 will be an extremely short-lived product and that seems unlikely.
They'll be pushed back a quarter permanently due to this. That's my prediction. Probably not worth even the paper it's written on (and it's not even written on paper making it even worse!), but hey...! We're all entitled to an opinion!
*G*
"nVidia are confident that NV30 will come out in time for Christmas and will be in large enough quantaties for everyone... "
Uh-huh. Riiight... They're just SAYING this of course, they don't really have any control over it. They haven't even got first silicon yet, WOE THEM if they need more than one re-spin. I seriously doubt they'll have finished boards "for everyone" anytime this year considering all the verifying/debug work that will have to be done on both hardware and software, plus everything has to go out to production/boxing, ship out to retailers etc... All this takes time.
"And I still stick to what I think: NV30 will be released shortly after the annoucement on Comdex."
Released to Anand, Tom and Kyle in reality, on paper to everyone else MAYBE. On Nvidia reference boards, not production boards. Comdex's like mid-november, right? I say, FORGET IT. First silicon is end of october from the fab. Short of an act of god on Nvidia's behalf, it would be a virtual impossibility for them to release anything shortly after comdex unless it's paper only with a few samples to prominent websites to try and take wind out of the R300-sails. WOE THEM again if ATI gets an R350 refresh out the door around christmas though, but to be frank I don't think that will happen. ATI wants to pump as much cash out of this generation as they can I suppose...
And the only-128-bit memory rumors are doing the rounds again, but you said you had 'sources' assuring you it was 256-bit. I tell ya this Alex... You better PRAY they'll come through for you on this or your cred's shot to hell around here.
Of course, Nvidia might surprise me and pull a miracle out of their pocket, but I'm sceptical. They will pull through in the end though. Nvidia fumbled the ball this time 'round but they'll bounce back next gen (and ATI damn well better not get complacent like they were when THEY had all the OEM contracts!). No doubt about NV's strength long-term, but it seems likely announcement of next gen will be towards summer 2003 rather than mid-february like we're used to. Else NV30 will be an extremely short-lived product and that seems unlikely.
They'll be pushed back a quarter permanently due to this. That's my prediction. Probably not worth even the paper it's written on (and it's not even written on paper making it even worse!), but hey...! We're all entitled to an opinion!
*G*
