NPD February 2007

[Carl B]

Hmm... Extra one billion for the year, because of 100$ price cut...
I wonder what sort of fuzzy math they have used to calculate that??
Correct me if I'm confused, but wouldn't that mean Sony has forecasted to sell 10 million units in Japan alone in 1 year, as 10 million units x 100$ is 1 billion dollars!?, or is there some other method to count it? Naturally it's unnecessary to say that they actually haven't forecasted selling that many units, because that would be nuts.

It would make sense if they calculated to lose 1 billion during the whole lifetime of PS3. I could see that this drop would have been implemented in their road map so that it would actually affect the first 10 million units sold in japan, and after that the two different road maps would have merged.

Well, I can't argue with this logic at all, because you're absolutely right.

Yet that's the direct connection that recent articles have asserted and attributed to Stringers inner circle in terms of quoting the cause/effect of said drop. Absolutely though it seems a bit outlandish... frankly I think it's just too early for anyone to know how pricing/supply/demand will effect things - we just need to pay careful attention to the quarterly financial reports and what language/estimates SCEI uses I guess to try and get a better handle on what is costing what.

Well, whatever the case SCE's losing ~$2 billion on the console this year, so... it is costing them quite a bit. But since a $100 drop by its very nature likely contributes 'only' $200 million to the loss (assuming arbitrarily 2 million of the more expensive PS3 variant were manufactured for Japan ahead of the revisions), the rest is likely "just" general component sourcing pain associated with the pre-launch woes.

 

[Arwin]

How would the EU have any influance on US/JAP sales? We hardly ever get any data on consoles sold in europe so it wont change anything at all. Americans wont suddenly start buying more ps3's because we europeans can now buy one.

It influences third party support. Simple as that. Same reason as to why Microsoft wanted to be out before Sony and be cheaper than Sony. Become the lead SKU, and stay the lead SKU. If worldwide, the PS3 does well, it will get better support, get better ports, become the lead SKU more often, and that will affect all games targetted at more than 1 region. Then, if the base is large enough, exclusives become more interesting.

Additionally, just as some Europeans factored in Japanese support for the PS2 into their buying decisions, if Europe goes ape-shit over the PS3, it can still affect U.S. buyers because they may believe as a result of it that PS3 software support will be superior again the next generation (or that BluRay will win the format war, or whatever).

There are a lot of things factoring in. It is easier to list the number of things that will have some kind of impact though, than predicting how big that impact really is going to be.

 

[Arwin]

How many console generations do we have to go through before we realize that one console's install base is not the install base for its successor? The general trend in console history has been one of extreme fluctuation due to the longevity of a hardware generation and the way each console stands apart from its predecessors as a distinct, isolated product. The consistency of sales numbers between PS1 and PS2 is the exception, not the rule. It's relatively unsurprising, then, that PS3 sales aren't being driven by the number of PS2 sold in the last 6 years.

That's not actually true. It does factor in, absolutely. I think it generally takes two generations two win, and two generations to lose a market. There are exceptions, but they are just that.

360 numbers last February were better than PS3 now (was around 160K, IIRC), 360 was supply-limited and had launched into 3 territories. Besides, it's not very useful to compare numbers in a vacuum except for making fanboys feel better (although it's not even possible in this case) : outside of this theorical vacuum (ie when you compare 360 now and PS3 now), the 360 has picked up a lot of steam, sells solid numbers every month in addition to large amounts of SW, and has a number of killer apps planned for the rest of the year.

I'm just pointing out the risk of comparing the PS3's number in a vacuum in much the same way.

I'm not sure the EU launch will have any influence on March and April NPD numbers, btw.
Regarding the state of the PS3 EU launch, wee Sony has claimed they were on target for 6 millions units by the end of March, has yet to sell over 1 million in JP (tracking behind the NGC right now), and has very slow sales in NA. Which must mean there are something like 3 or 4 millions units on their way to EU right now.

Of course, they can always just stack the extra PS3s right next to those piles of 360s stacked in the back of the stores already, eh? In that respect, there is a lot of store space available in the E.U. to fill up. Lets say that, on average, they are aiming for 1 million sold and located in houses with families and students, and another million shipped and stored with retailers.

But seriously, the EU launch is maybe more of a launch than the U.S. / Japan launch was, with a lot of software being scheduled around it, some serious Firmware upgrades planned, and we already had the high-profile GDC announcements (though in the main-stream, I don't know how much influence those will have). There will be a lot of news and PR (and games!) from the European launch, and that may affect sales in other regions. We'll see soon enough. Back in the 16bit era I placed my bet on the Atari ST (a machine I greatly enjoyed by the way). For this generation though, I'm trying to pick the Amiga, like I have been doing for the last 2 generations.

 

[fearsomepirate]

That's not actually true.

Yes, it is actually true.
NES to SNES: -20%
SNES to N64: -33%
N64 to GC: -36%

SMS to MD: +137%
MD to Saturn: -71%
Saturn to DC: +4% (but DC was produced for less than 2 years; Saturn struggled along for 3)

GBA is also trailing the original GB by over 40 million units, or around 35%, GBA's shorter lifespan being due to tougher competition. I can't find numbers for the 5200 or 7800, but I know they were huge drop-offs from the 2600. Literally, the only thing resembling consistency out there is PS1 to PS2 (+11%), and even that gap looks like it might continue to widen for some time yet. There are simply no guarantees in the console race; the numbers show that no matter how well you're doing, you can't rest on your laurels. Brand awareness fades pretty fast if your new machine isn't something that anyone wants, because the presence of the old machine doesn't benefit you, nor does it inconvenience you in the slightest to buy a competitor's new product. It's not like the home computer space where you have a whole range of factors practically compelling you to stick with your current supplier rather than switch to another. It's more like cars. You may love your 97 Pontiac, but when you need a new car in 2007, if the new Pontiacs are crap, you'll be driving a Toyota.

I think it generally takes two generations two win

The only players to ever "win a console war," Atari, Nintendo, and Sony, all took the #1 spots with their debut products.

 

[Corwin_B]

There will be a lot of news and PR (and games!) from the European launch, and that may affect sales in other regions.

I'm pretty sure there are many people (hundreds of thousands, probably) in NA and JP currently sitting on the fence, and just waiting from a couple positive reports from EU to spend $600 on a PS3. As they say over there at NeoGAF, "Believe !"

 

[Pozer]

I'm pretty sure there are many people (hundreds of thousands, probably) in NA and JP currently sitting on the fence, and just waiting from a couple positive reports from EU to spend $600 on a PS3. As they say over there at NeoGAF, "Believe !"

The NA American people weren't waiting for the SMS and Atari ST to conquer Europe, nor were they jumping onboard the PC-Engine/TG16 when it conquered Japan. There maybe a few thousand people who linger in forums (like us) but "hundreds of thousands" I seriously doubt. I think for the average NA shopper, it will take walking into walmart and seeing 1)a better library 2)a killer app type game 3)a lower price..... 99% of consumers will not care nor have any idea how well a $600 console sells in Europe.

 

[Tap In]

I'm pretty sure there are many people (hundreds of thousands, probably) in NA and JP currently sitting on the fence, and just waiting from a couple positive reports from EU to spend $600 on a PS3. As they say over there at NeoGAF, "Believe !"

sarcasm?

I'm sure EU will have its share of early adopters and news stories (with pics of people lining up to get their pre-orders) will be all the rage for about 3-5 days and then the flurry, like all things, will die down to a dull roar. We will be right back where we were last week. at least until more software or price drops appear.

 

[Sis]

Hmm... Extra one billion for the year, because of 100$ price cut...
I wonder what sort of fuzzy math they have used to calculate that??
Correct me if I'm confused, but wouldn't that mean Sony has forecasted to sell 10 million units in Japan alone in 1 year, as 10 million units x 100$ is 1 billion dollars!?, or is there some other method to count it? Naturally it's unnecessary to say that they actually haven't forecasted selling that many units, because that would be nuts.

It would make sense if they calculated to lose 1 billion during the whole lifetime of PS3. I could see that this drop would have been implemented in their road map so that it would actually affect the first 10 million units sold in japan, and after that the two different road maps would have merged.

I could have sworn that Sony was talking about ramping up production to 1-2 million units a month, totalling 12-24 million units for the year. Doesn't this put that $1 billion dollar figure in the right ball park?

 

[Arwin]

Yes, it is actually true.
NES to SNES: -20%
SNES to N64: -33%
N64 to GC: -36%

You're proving my point. Nintendo didn't give up market domination to Playstation, they lost market against Sega, and then lost the three-way race against the two other consoles. I could see Sony lose 33% of its market share for this generation, sure, but that would still make it big - however, much more vulnerable for the next generation.

GBA is also trailing the original GB by over 40 million units, or around 35%, GBA's shorter lifespan being due to tougher competition.

But they didn't lose the market at all, so that matters little. In fact, because they dominated the market so much, they could get away with the GBA in the first-place.

I'm pretty sure there are many people (hundreds of thousands, probably) in NA and JP currently sitting on the fence, and just waiting from a couple positive reports from EU to spend $600 on a PS3. As they say over there at NeoGAF, "Believe !"

Read my post to tongue_of_colicab, before the one you are quoting.

@Sis: Sony only announced that their maximum capacity would be around 1.2million PS3's per month. That would put them at a maximum production this year of 14.4 million PS3s. I don't think they will quite reach that figure, with production slowing down once or twice for cost-reduction implementations, so I'm thinking they will produce about 12 million. Of course, should the PS3 become a runaway success earlier than expected, they may try to ramp up production. But for now, I'm assuming that Sony has a long term plan in place and doesn't really expect to sell that many more in the first year.

 

[quest55720]

What I'm saying is that there are enough 1st/2nd party titles to serve as differentiation. I don't think that they alone combine to create 'killer app' levels of purchase enticement (on the whole), but I also don't think the PS3 is at risk of losing 3rd party development; IMO it will still have all the mass market titles. The risk is in losing 3rd party *exclusives*, which does suck for Sony, but is not a deathblow in and of itself

Might not be a death blow but it would keep them from getting that 70%+ market share they enjoyed last time around. Also if those 3rd party games are half ass ports like many have been so far that is also going to also hurt sony's image. I think sony for now is fine with 3rd party support but if sales keep like they are I could imagine some 3rd parties just skipping the PS3 because it is not worth their time like many did the xbox and gamecube.

Sony has a major up hill battle in the months a head. I can not think of to many times were a platform was being out performed this badly and came back to win.

 

[Rolf N]

How many console generations do we have to go through before we realize that one console's install base is not the install base for its successor? The general trend in console history has been one of extreme fluctuation due to the longevity of a hardware generation and the way each console stands apart from its predecessors as a distinct, isolated product. The consistency of sales numbers between PS1 and PS2 is the exception, not the rule.

PS2 had backwards-compatibility and was thus a suitable upgrade from the predecessor, allowing a smooth and easy generational transition without throwing all your old games out of the window. No other console offered that.
You should maybe factor this into the reasons why that particular exception to the rule came to pass.

 

[Arwin]

By the way, it has been reported here that by late last week, 44.000 out of 50.000 pre-order slots had been filled in the Benelux (the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxemburg, 27,5 million inhabitants total). Looking in the shops here I wouldn't have guessed (all I walked into still have preorders available), but I'm in a small, out of reach province these days, so that may not be reliable, and I was actually expecting not to have to look too hard to find one in the shops in this area from the 23rd onwards over here. You just have to know where to look.

Anyway, will be interesting to see how many get sold this month and the next. I expect some countries to do really well, but other countries maybe not so much.

 

[tongue_of_colicab]

Well for sure you dont have to worry about the first month. The second month will probably be decent too but I expect sales to drop after that, just as in the US and Japan. But we probably wont know for sure since there hardly ever are any sales numbers for the EU.

 

[TheChefO]

Entertaining...

Some of the posts over the past 7 pages are hillarious. Some spinsters are just too much on this board. The summer edition of the 2010 market prediction poll should be "interesting" to say the least.

When is the PS3 EU launch date?

 

[StefanS]

When is the PS3 EU launch date?

March 23rd. This friday ;-)

 

[TheChefO]

March 23rd. This friday ;-)

Thanks StefanS.

Does anyone have sum total on preorders? I'd guess they were somewhere in the million range.

 

[tongue_of_colicab]

Xbox 360 is "not performing well" anywhere in Europe except for UK, according to Nintendo of America boss Reggie Fils-Aime.

When asked how the Wii was doing compared to competition, Reggie told mercurynews.com: "Well, there's no PS3 yet ... 360 is selling well only in one country: UK. Across the rest of Europe, it is not performing well."

He goes on to state: "Wii, on the other hand, is selling exceptionally well all through Europe."

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=160234&skip=yes

So anyone wants to count up US/Jap sales and see actually how much MS sold in europe untill now?

 

[kia]

More numbers, top 30 for all platforms and all PS3, Wii games:

360

1. CRACKDOWN - 427,361
2. GEARS OF WAR - 119,232
3. MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2K7 - 113,447
4. LOST PLANET: EXTREME CONDITION - 110,628
5. NBA STREET HOMECOURT - 101,710
6. TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS - 91,356
7. FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 3 - 61,398
8. BATTLESTATIONS: MIDWAY - 50,310
9. NBA 2K7 - 46,093
10. CALL OF DUTY 3 - 40,259
11. ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION - 37,060
12. T. CLANCYS GHOST RECON: ADVANCED W - 35,014
13. MADDEN NFL 07 - 31,946
14. NCAA MARCH MADNESS 07 - 30,209
15. TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 07 - 28,232
16. FUZION FRENZY 2 - 27,751
17. WINNING ELEVEN: PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2007 - 27,684
18. SAINTS ROW - 25,568
19. NBA LIVE 07 - 24,905
20. NEED FOR SPEED: CARBON - 24,363
21. WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2007 - 23,249
22. FIFA SOCCER 07 - 19,340
23. VIVA PINATA - 18,428
24. F.E.A.R. - 18,166
25. MARVEL: ULTIMATE ALLIANCE - 18,163
26. DEAD RISING - 18,136
27. DDR UNIVERSE BUNDLE - 17,621
28. TONY HAWK'S PROJECT 8 - 16,983
29. NHL 07 - 15,606
30. BURNOUT REVENGE - 15,521

GBA

1. FINAL FANTASY VI ADVANCE - 64,459
2. POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP - 42,512
3. SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 - 38,305
4. MARIO KART: CIRCUIT - 37,045
5. POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP - 36,513
6. SUPER MARIO ADVANCE - 29,520
7. POKEMON MYSTERY DUNGEON: RED RESCUE TEAM - 24,790
8. POKEMON EMERALD - 24,574
9. CARS - 16,669
10. SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS: CREATURE FROM THE - 16,428
11. CRASH/SPYRO SUPERPACK - 16,322
12. MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 - 15,529
13. MY LITTLE PONY: CRYSTAL PRINCESS RUNAWAY - 15,080
14. LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY - 14,359
15. DISNEY PRINCESS - 11,972
16. HOT WHEELS STUNT CHALLENGE/WORLD RACE - 11,702
17. DISNEY'S KIM POSSIBLE 3 - 11,470
18. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG - 11,014
19. SW: FLIGHT OF FALCON - 10,706
20. SCOOBY-DOO 2:MONSTERS - 10,138
21. THE SIMS 2: PETS - 10,096
22. FASHION DOGZ - 9,421
23. PAC-MAN COLLECTION - 9,149
24. HELLO KITTY: HAPPY PARTY PA - 9,115
25. NICKTOONS: BATTLE FOR VOLCANO ISLAND - 9,019
26. THE SUITE LIFE OF ZACK & CODY: TIPTON TR - 8,704
27. ZELDA: LINK TO PAST - 8,412
28. HARRY POTTER: AZKABAN - 8,172
29. HAPPY FEET - 7,985
30. TOP GUN:FIRESTORM ADV - 7,942

GCN

1. LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS - 59,250
2. LEGO STAR WARS - 27,787
3. SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE - 21,077
4. NARUTO: CLASH OF NINJA 2 - 20,389
5. MARIO KART: DOUBLE - 20,316
6. PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND - 18,454
7. SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE - 16,910
8. HAPPY FEET - 13,750
9. CARS - 13,167
10. SUPER MARIO STRIKERS - 12,614
11. LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY - 12,588
12. SONIC RIDERS - 12,128
13. SHREK: SMASH N' CRASH RACING - 11,734
14. RAMPAGE: TOTAL DESTRUCTION - 11,517
15. MADDEN NFL 07 - 11,133
16. MARIO SUPERSTAR BASEBALL - 10,579
17. SPONGEBOB: LIGHTS CAMERA - 10,101
18. DK: JUNGLE W/BONGOS - 10,089
19. OVER THE HEDGE - 10,054
20. SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG - 9,500
21. BATTALION WARS - 9,034
22. NICKTOONS: BATTLE FOR VOLCANO ISLAND - 8,750
23. NEED FOR SPEED: CARBON - 8,621
24. NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED - 8,440
25. ANIMAL CROSSING - 8,184
26. STAR FOX: ASSAULT - 7,842
27. SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS: CREATURE FROM THE - 7,799
28. FLUSHED AWAY - 7,329
29. NARUTO: CLASH OF NINJA - 7,309
30. LEGEND OF SPYRO: A NEW BEGINNING - 7,305

NDS

1. DIDDY KONG RACING - 262,031
2. NEW SUPER MARIO BROS - 93,948
3. MARIO KART - 71,428
4. BRAIN AGE: TRAIN YOUR BRAIN IN MINUTES A - 64,165
5. KIRBY SQUEAK SQUAD - 59,610
6. NINTENDOGS: DALMATIAN & FRIENDS - 48,635
7. YOSHI'S ISLAND 2 - 46,752
8. ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD - 38,243
9. BIG BRAIN ACADEMY - 37,357
10. NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRIENDS - 37,322
11. MARIO HOOPS 3 ON 3 - 35,134
12. COOKING MAMA - 33,487
13. NINTENDOGS: LABRADOR & FRIENDS - 33,053
14. POKEMON RANGER - 31,964
15. MARIO VS DONKEY KONG 2: MARCH OF THE MIN - 31,232
16. SUPER MARIO 64 DS - 30,556
17. FINAL FANTASY III - 30,417
18. HANNAH MONTANA - 30,403
19. PAWS & CLAWS PET VET - 30,239
20. NINTENDOGS: CHIHUAHUA & FRIENDS - 26,847
21. THE SIMS 2: PETS - 25,230
22. HORSEZ - 23,192
23. POKEMON MYSTERY DUNGEON: BLUE RESCUE TEA - 22,838
24. CATZ - 22,796
25. LUNAR KNIGHTS - 22,109
26. SONIC RUSH - 21,717
27. ZOO TYCOON - 20,704
28. YU-GI-OH! GX SPIRIT CALLER - 19,337
29. LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY - 18,178
30. DOGZ - 16,219

PS2

1. GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR - 129,735
2. MLB '07: THE SHOW - 70,209
3. MADDEN NFL 07 - 66,273
4. GOD OF WAR - 65,572
5. MORTAL KOMBAT: ARMAGEDDON - 62,628
6. FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 3 - 61,269
7. NCAA MARCH MADNESS 07 - 57,007
8. GHOST RIDER - 56,727
9. GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS - 56,486
10. NBA 2K7 - 55,737
11. NBA LIVE 07 - 52,516
12. MVP 07 NCAA BASEBALL - 46,431
13. GUITAR HERO - 45,817
14. WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2007 - 42,373
15. FIFA SOCCER 07 - 41,732
16. LEGO STAR WARS - 38,990
17. ROGUE GALAXY - 38,955
18. MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB ED REMIX - 37,039
19. NEED FOR SPEED: CARBON - 36,145
20. BLACK - 35,797
21. STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II - 35,615
22. KARAOKE REVOLUTION AMERICAN IDOL W/ MICR - 35,281
23. GUITAR HERO 2 - 35,131
24. RESIDENT EVIL 4 - 34,145
25. TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 07 - 33,542
26. FINAL FANTASY XII - 32,588
27. NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED - 31,537
28. DDR SUPER NOVA BUNDLE - 31,306
29. NASCAR 07 - 30,928
30. LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY - 30,723

PS3

1. RESISTANCE: FALL OF MAN - 70,505
2. VIRTUA FIGHTER 5 - 53,219
3. MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2K7 - 32,181
4. MADDEN NFL 07 - 30,931
5. SONIC THE HEDGEHOG - 30,711
6. FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 3 - 26,670
7. NEED FOR SPEED: CARBON - 23,303
8. CALL OF DUTY 3 - 22,744
9. NBA 2K7 - 20,411
10. TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 07 - 18,254
11. MARVEL: ULTIMATE ALLIANCE - 17,692
12. FORMULA ONE CHAMPIONSHIP EDITION - 17,612
13. NBA 07 - 16,510
14. BLAZING ANGELS: SQUADRONS OF WWII - 16,412
15. RIDGE RACER 7 - 10,754
16. TONY HAWK'S PROJECT 8 - 10,648
17. FULL AUTO 2: BATTLELINES - 10,021
18. UNTOLD LEGENDS: DARK KINGDOM - 8,165
19. GENJI 2: DAYS OF THE BLADE - 7,814
20. NHL 2K7 - 7,345
21. MOBILE SUITE GUNDAM: CROSSFIRE - 3,154

PSP

1. RATCHET & CLANK: SIZE MATTERS - 55,163
2. GRAND THEFT AUTO: VICE CITY STORIES - 43,251
3. MADDEN NFL 07 - 36,124
4. GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES - 33,793
5. NBA LIVE 07 - 30,499
6. NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED - 25,755
7. MIDNIGHT CLUB 3: DUB EDITION - 22,490
8. GHOST RIDER - 22,285
9. MEDAL OF HONOR: HEROES - 22,076
10. SOCOM: U.S. NAVY SEALS FIRETEAM BRAVO 2 - 21,822
11. THE WARRIORS - 18,912
12. METAL GEAR SOLID: PORTABLE OPS - 18,748
13. NEED FOR SPEED CARBON: OWN THE CITY - 17,799
14. MLB '07: THE SHOW - 17,640
15. SONIC RIVALS - 16,108
16. TONY HAWK'S PROJECT 8 - 15,426
17. WWE SMACKDOWN VS. RAW 2007 - 15,010
18. FIFA SOCCER 07 - 14,317
19. FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 3 - 13,884
20. STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II - 13,841
21. BURNOUT LEGENDS - 13,046
22. WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006 - 12,855
23. MARVEL: ULTIMATE ALLIANCE - 11,168
24. MORTAL KOMBAT: UNCHAINED - 10,780
25. SOCOM: FIRETEAM BRAVO - 10,232
26. NBA 07 - 9,997
27. PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MAN'S CHE - 9,992
28. KILLZONE: LIBERATION - 9,789
29. ACE COMBAT X: SKIES OF DECEPTION - 9,771
30. SID MEIER'S PIRATES! - 9,687

WII

1. PLAY W/ REMOTE - 370,592
2. LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS - 130,063
3. WARIOWARE: SMOOTH MOVES - 108,888
4. SONIC AND THE SECRET RINGS - 83,430
5. RAYMAN RAVING RABBIDS - 60,450
6. MADDEN NFL 07 - 31,749
7. RED STEEL - 25,853
8. CALL OF DUTY 3 - 24,789
9. SUPER MONKEY BALL: BANANA BLITZ - 23,878
10. EXCITE TRUCK - 22,427
11. RAPALA TROPHIES: PRO TOURNAMENT FISHING - 22,418
12. MARVEL: ULTIMATE ALLIANCE - 19,475
13. SSX BLUR - 18,687
14. TRAUMA CENTER: SECOND OPINION - 17,944
15. NEED FOR SPEED: CARBON - 16,563
16. TONY HAWK'S DOWNHILL JAM - 13,593
17. DRAGON BALL Z: BUDOKAI TENKAICHI 2 - 12,799
18. ELEBITS - 12,695
19. RAMPAGE: TOTAL DESTRUCTION - 12,583
20. GT PRO SERIES - 11,202
21. MONSTER 4X4: WORLD CIRCUIT - 10,776
22. SUPER SWING GOLF - 9,943
23. METAL SLUG ANTHOLOGY - 8,592
24. CARS - 7,552
25. TOM CLANCY'S SPLINTER CELL: DOUBLE AGENT - 6,950
26. AVATAR: THE LAST AIRBENDER - 5,309
27. SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS: CREATURE FROM THE - 5,251
28. FAR CRY: VENGEANCE - 5,028
29. HAPPY FEET - 4,353
30. WORLD SERIES OF POKER : TOURNAMENT OF CH - 3,713
31. ICE AGE 2: THE MELTDOWN - 3,514
32. OPEN SEASON - 3,415
33. BARNYARD - 2,561
34. DISNEY'S CHICKEN LITTLE: ACE IN ACTION - 2,380
35. ANT BULLY - 2,157
36. THE GRIM ADVENTURES OF BILLY & MANDY - 2,156

XBX

1. HALO 2 - 49,774
2. MORTAL KOMBAT: ARMAGEDDON - 22,069
3. MADDEN NFL 07 - 16,768
4. NBA LIVE 07 - 13,922
5. LEGO STAR WARS - 13,284
6. NEED FOR SPEED: CARBON - 12,352
7. GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS - 11,158
8. HALO - 10,648
9. BLACK - 10,576
10. FABLE - 10,538
11. TRUE CRIME: NEW YORK CITY - 10,441
12. SCARFACE: THE WORLD IS YOURS - 10,082
13. CALL OF DUTY 3 - 9,001
14. STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II - 8,472
15. FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 3 - 8,182
16. NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED - 7,593
17. TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 07 - 7,574
18. FIFA SOCCER 07 - 7,410
19. LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY - 7,088
20. KING KONG: PETER JACKSON'S - 7,059
21. NBA 2K7 - 6,862
22. CARS - 6,837
23. MARVEL: ULTIMATE ALLIANCE - 6,271
24. THE GODFATHER: THE GAME - 6,249
25. NASCAR 07 - 6,106
26. THRILLVILLE - 5,907
27. T.CLANCYS RAINBOW SIX:LCKDWN - 5,838
28. HALF-LIFE 2 - 5,818
29. CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE - 5,700
30. 50 CENT: BULLETPROOF - 5,662

 

[kia]

Also you can ask for LTD numbers and I'll give them to you.

 

[pipo]

By the way, it has been reported here that by late last week, 44.000 out of 50.000 pre-order slots had been filled in the Benelux (the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxemburg, 27,5 million inhabitants total). Looking in the shops here I wouldn't have guessed...

I'm not sure who came up with that story, but it's obviously not true. PS3's aplenty over here.

The Wii however is still nowhere to be found; 'Try again in three weeks sir.'. Incredible.