NPD August 2016 Sales Results, Results Ranked by Revenue (Hardware Now, Software Later)

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From Cosmo at GAF, XBO won the month, Xbox beat PS4 beat 3DS, Xbox had it's best August since 2011. He said it was a good month for hardware sales all around.

August 2011 360 did 308k. So that's an upper bound.

I'll make a thread later if nobody else does first.
 
Tween from Greenberg: https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/774005815497728000

Thanks to everyone for the amazing support making @Xbox One #1 selling console in US for August from @npdgroup second month in a row!

Statement from Xbox Marketing CVP Mike Nichols:

Thanks to our fans and their excitement for new Xbox One games and the recently launched Xbox One S, which is the only console available this holiday with built-in UHD 4K Blu-ray, 4K video streaming and HDR for video and gaming, Xbox One was the best-selling console in the U.S. in August, according to NPD Group.
 
Ah, okay it's the only one with all of this combined.

Still unsure about the correct use of commas... I am the only poster on B3D who is not a pedophile, who never killed anyone, my name is mrfox. :yep2:
 
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I still think PS4P will massively outsell Xbox One S by 2:1 in November in the US unless MS does crazy sales down to $220 or below range.
 
I agree...

It looks to me MS did the right thing with slim by doing stuff like upping the clock, putting in the high end features (UHD Blu Ray etc) (although this is costlier, so they either lose money or price flexibility). So in the current ecosystem it's a winner. But that's all well and good but it wont stand a chance against Pro.
 
Ah, okay it's the only one with all of this combined.
Commas as a list. Should have put in the final 'Oxford Comma' as well. That's a heated debate amongst grammarians but there's no benefit to leaving it out and there are instances where its absence is confusing. Hence leave it in!

Still unsure about the correct use of commas.
I ended up creating a simplified grammar in order to teach it effectively. It's actually pretty easy when taught right. Just most folk don't know the rules (including primary/middle school teachers - 'when you take a breath' :rolleyes:) and throw commas around willy-nilly. And then when knowledgeable folk do try to explain them, they go into ordinate and subordinate clauses and all sorts of gobbledegook that people didn't actually think about when they invented the comma. It boils down to (contemporary use):

1) commas as lists
Today I need to get the secondary character spawning in the tute, change the spawn graphics, update the enemy AI, and introduce some combat.
“Her favourite foods are sausages and mash, raspberry jam, fish and chips, jelly and ice cream, and Marmite.”
Notice the benefit of the last comma. Does she like jelly and ice-cream and Marmite all together, or is the Marmite a separate item? With that last comma we know.

2) structuring a sentence so people can parse it more easily
Expression of ideas starts with a subject followed by what we want to say about it.
Mr. Fox is a peculiar fellow with a peculiar smell who none of us really like though we pretend we do.
For interesting writing/reading, we can rearrange that info to precede the subject with some info about it. However, the reader is then at a loss as to what the hell we're talking about unless we make it clear when the subject arrives on the scene.
A peculiar fellow with a peculiar smell, Mr. Fox is someone who none of us really like though we pretend we do.

3) separating a sentence into high- and low- priority parts

Just like brackets, you use commas around a phrase to shift a piece of info into an aside. The sentence maintains its meaning without that comma'd out fragment.
Mr. Fox is a peculiar fellow, with a peculiar smell, who none of us really like though we pretend we do.
His particular aroma isn't as important as the rest of the info, but the reader may want to know.
Peter took the bus in the morning, on Wednesday with his dad, over the Severn Bridge to his grandmother's mansion.
Reads as,"Peter took the bus in the morning over the Severn Bridge to his grandmother's mansion. Oh, and that was Wednesday, with his dad." Whereas...
Peter took the bus, in the morning on Wednesday, with his dad, over the Severn Bridge, to his grandmother's mansion.
Reads as..."Peter took the bus with his dad to his grandmother's mansion. Oh, and that was Wednesday morning, and they went via the Severn Bridge."

Edit: there's another appearance of the comma, which confuses people when trying to make sense of them, where it's optionally coupled with a connective like 'and' or 'but' to just add a bit of 'space' between the ideas.
 
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I still think PS4P will massively outsell Xbox One S by 2:1 in November in the US unless MS does crazy sales down to $220 or below range.
PS4 Slim is cheaper too (than PS4). I expect sales to reverse back to where they normally are (along with the expected peak of new hardware). XB1S and PS4Slim and still in the same positions as XB1 and PS4 n the whole. New console buyers with a 4K TV may be tempted by XB1S thanks to UHS and 4k upscaling, but the majority of shoppers are looking at XB versus PS in the usual way because the machines are fundamentally the same. Someone who was considering a PS4 for their 1080p is unlikely to reconsider XB1S if they weren't considering XB1, and vice versa.
 
On the ... err ... bright side for MS, the power boost of the Neo makes the difference between the (newly upclocked) X1S and the PS4 Slim seem pretty tiny.

Still expecting PS4 sales to dwarf the X1S though ...
 
Still expecting PS4 sales to dwarf the X1S though ...
If PS4 does resume to outselling XBO S that might not be a good sign for potential Pro sales. So hard to tell, there is just not a lot to go on and we really won't know until there are several months of sales data to look at. Throwing Pro out for Holiday isn't going to help but thats a sales period which does seem easily skewed with drastic sales.
 
It is customary, when making a list that stresses all items combined, to have the final 'and' stressed. Eg: a, b, *and* c (usually using italics or something like that).

I have Strunk and White here somewhere though and I am sure the truth is in there ;)

Anyway, I think for those that care about 4K gaming, the PS4 Pro is going to be 3x as attractive as the Xbox S, basically. Only those who care more about UHD BluRay discs are going to prefer the S, which I have to imagine being a minority at this point, but on the whole for at least a little while the S may still be an attractive media box.

Then there is VR of course, which may attract some PS4 Pro purchases as well. I preordered one today in the store, was the third on the list. You don't have to make a down-payment there so the risk is low should I change my mind.

Really want a 4K desktop monitor now though, but I have a feeling I should wait a bit more.
 
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The comma mean's "and" not "or". The sentence is true, the Xbox One S is the only console with all 3 of the claims. It also won August NPD in the US..
  1. built-in UHD 4K Blu-ray
  2. 4K video streaming
  3. HDR for video and gaming
Heh marketing talk. How much I loathe it :D
Why not make it also "the only console with built-in UHD 4K Blu-ray, 4K video streaming, HDR for video and gaming, HD graphics, Bluetooth Controllers, online service, internet and games?"

I mean....its the only console that has ALL 7 of them unlike PS4 which wont have built in UHD 4K Blu Ray
 
It is customary, when making a list that stresses all items combined, to have the final 'and' stressed. Eg: a, b, *and* c (usually using italics or something like that).
'And' is intrinsically inclusive. If the list is of discrete options, it should use 'or'.
The recently launched Xbox One S...is the only console available this holiday with built-in UHD 4K Blu-ray, 4K video streaming, or HDR for video and gaming.
It's the only console with any of those features, vs...
The recently launched Xbox One S...is the only console available this holiday with built-in UHD 4K Blu-ray, 4K video streaming, and HDR for video and gaming.
It's the only console with all of those features combined.

I guess the commas take on the meaning of the final conditional. Use of anything other than an 'and' in a list seems pretty rare as language gets sloppy, which might explain someone suggesting you stress the final 'and' to clarify an (unnecessarily) ambiguous meaning. Formal written English really shouldn't be referencing intonation to convey meaning though! There's certainly enough words to choose from.
 
Heh marketing talk. How much I loathe it :D
Why not make it also "the only console with built-in UHD 4K Blu-ray, 4K video streaming, HDR for video and gaming, HD graphics, Bluetooth Controllers, online service, internet and games?"

I mean....its the only console that has ALL 7 of them unlike PS4 which wont have built in UHD 4K Blu Ray

It's a good thing Sony's motto is no longer "It only does everything!"
 
FWIW PS4 Pro preorder is #1 at Amazon.

Aquamarine still has not showed up, so I dont see any numbers anywhere. Perhaps we will get those when software comes out.
 
Well I guess that's with good reason... Strange change of stance, as "Does Everything" worked for PS3. It was also the theme for PlayStation. "For the Players" is defining an unnecessarily limited niche.
It's been working out pretty great for them so far tho. Ironically MS tried to do the same and got burnt.
 
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