No Man's Sky [PS4, PS5, XO, XBSX|S, PC, NX, XGP]

Why it's a huge spoiler? It's just a picture of bleep that bleep.
the text on the right bottom. its story spoilers. We don't even know that thing could talk.....and the second picture I posted, thats total story stuff, which means its not just systematic and there IS a pretty sci-fi story to move towards the centre of the universe.
 
I don't think anyone's questioning that appeal. It's the long term appeal that's being doubted. In true exploration, it's hard! It takes months/years and hardship to find a new land and give your name to the animals and plants and features. In NMS, you find a new planet every five minutes. All the novel creatures aren't going to remain novel because after a few planets, you'll be tuned in to the variety. When a kangaroo was seen for the first time, it was completely unlikely anything else before seen, and unbelievable. When a spiny something-or-other is encountered in NMS, it's just another evolution simulation adapting some arbitrary parameters. When you've spent two days climbing a mountain, the view is incredible. When you've landed a space-ship on mountain number 38, the view is just another vista.

And ultimately I think it's the ease of discovery that means discovery is lacking value in NMS. It's all about the big numbers. What if there were far less planets, and getting from one to another was hard work? That you spend a lot of time on one planet, building resources, before you can make the next jump? Then each planet would be something special, scary, fantastic. How about making the game solo only and giving every player their own galaxy, unique to them? You can share it via media so your friends can see what happened to you, and experience unique adventures, which could actually be adventures because the effort required to progress could make progressing an achievement.

I think it worth noting that Elite had procedural planets, but the core was predetermined to ensure it was well balanced for fun. If you really wanted to fly out to the extremes, you could, but for most of us it was a samey set of planets not worth seeing. That's not to say NMS should be hand-crafted and identical for all, but I think less planets and more value to them would make the game more gripping. That or adding multiplayer, perhaps capped to limited numbers in any instance so that you don't get massive empires like Eve.

So has it been confirmed that every planet has life on it? That would be odd. I would think it would be far more interesting to only have a fraction of the planets to support life.
 
anyone going to be playing this on the pc ?

Most probably. Thinking of buying it for either PC or Ps4, currently leaning on the PC version.

Some screens from a German magazine

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I like how the surface of the planet doesn't look flat. It seems like they are using some sort of displacement for the ground geometry (really obvious in the fourth picture). And again, i love how the game looks.
 
Impressions from the guy who has it:
Here are some quick answers to the most FAQ I've been getting in PMs:

  • The planets almost always have some degree of life, although some are more plentiful than others. I have yet to encounter a planet quite as teeming with life as some of the ones shown in the trailer / demo vids. Maybe as I get closer to the center? Time will tell. Whenever you land on a planet, it gives you metrics on the Flora and Fauna, anywhere from "Yeah there's a shit ton!" to "None" and even on the "None" planets, I've found life - so I'm pretty sure it may be actually impossible for a planet to be 100% bone dry on life.

  • The planets are pretty big. Sometimes annoyingly big. It's actually faster to fly up in to orbit to circle around a planet to get to POIs than it is to fly at surface level (as you have maximum speeds and semi-orbit is 10x the max as surface level) which feels a little weird sometimes while playing.

  • I'm pretty sure this game is 60FPS but I could be wrong, is there a definitive way to check? I haven't experienced frame loss at all while playing.

  • The trophy list isn't actually "turned on" in the trophy section yet. I do earn trophies - they pop up like normal - but when I go to try and view them in my trophy list, nothing appears. I guess they're waiting? Who knows.

  • The clouds are not procedural, at least not yet, but I think this is because it's just a placeholder. As you approach and enter planets etc they go through shifts in display representing distance, and at maximum distance you're viewing the outer most "layer" IE: the cloud layer and this doesn't seem to change. Maybe they just didn't want to bother making those layers procedural? I don't know.

  • Everyone keeps asking me what I think about this game and what kind of score I would give it etc, and I don't want to answer those questions until I'm done playing it, HOWEVER, I will say this:
Expectations on this game seem a bit over hyped, and not because "the game is bad" but rather because I think expectations don't necessarily match the gameplay style of what's actually here. You NEED, ABSOLUTELY NEED to come in to this game with an open mind about what to expect if you're going to be happy. If you just make assumptions on how this game plays and if you think you've already made up your mind on how much you're going to like it, you may be disappointed. This would be like going to see Terminator 2 for the first time expecting another horror thriller like Terminator 1, and then being disappointed because it ends up being a really action-packed blockbuster. Was the movie bad? Of course not, it's one of the best movies of all time - but your expectations did not meet reality and now you're upset regardless. I see some reviewers coming at this full guns blazing over this, time will tell.

I will work up my own review and I'll post it. It's just taking me time to find the right words to express what this has been like as a player and I also refuse to make a final say on it until I've "finished" by reaching the center.

More later! Back to work!

and his latest comment:

FWIW - just had my official first shit-your-pants cool moment. At least for me.

They weren't kidding with secrets in this, some of this shit is sick guys. Avoid big spoilers you won't regret it.

:D :D :D
 
Funny how this guy can't tell if the game is 60 fps or not ... my pre-order is waiting for confirmation of 60 fps in the PS4 version.
Yeah, all we hear is that the framerate is smooth. Its difficult to tell just by playing cos anything north of 40 has that smooth feel. All repvious Hello Games'have been 60 fps, so we can hope.

In other news, a No Mans Sky tracker tool is coming up to help chart the universe and keep track and share planets:

http://nmstracker.com/
 
I think you're under-appreciative of the maths on that.

18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets. Let's consider the universe is spherical, and the greatest density is in the centre such that the density in the outermost space contains one billionth of all the planets. That means 18 billion starting planets in the opening space. If 18 million people play the game, they'll be a mean average 1000 planets away from their nearest neighbour. The chances of being within travelling distance of an arbitrary star system would be miniscule.

So unless there's a system in place to put people nearer each other than completely random starting positions, or a galactic hyperdrive where you can choose where to travel over many hundreds/millions of stars away and an accurate spatial positioning system to locate a planet, it's impossible for people to arrange to meet up or explore a certain planet.
 
i'm sure people will find ways to rendez-vous to some planets to meet up.
Unless you're extraordinarily lucky with your random spawning point (allowing for people restarting over for new spawn points), the chances of you being weeks/months of travel of another player is very, very remote. :yes:

Remember there are 18 quintillion (18,446,744,073,709,551,616) planets.

edit: beaten by Shifty.
 
Thats what was interesting about that 2014 podcast I linked. he said you all start in one galaxy, but they have made a universe, so more galaxies. He did not want to say even that ut the questions forced that much out.

BTW, daymeeuhn, the guy who has it , says it has lots of bugs :( ! I mean expected, for something like this, but he says the game has crashed like 20 times, usually while warp jumping.
 
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