You can't seem to get it through your head, 80,000 is the correct number, the SHIPPED UNITS number. There is currently worldwide surplus of about 6 million gamecubes worldwide. It is POSITIVE that more than 80,000 units have been sold this quarter(if you check media create, Japan alone has sold more than 80,000 this quarter). But only 80,000 were shipped, I think you seriously need to go to school and learn how business works, The company sells units to suppliers , Walmart, EB they all have a central source. if EB's central hub has a huge surplus of GC's, they do not need to buy more, so no purchases are made, no units shipped to them, but that does not mean the units laying around are not selling, they just are already paid for, already shipped.
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LisaJoy said:
But Nintendo doesn't get money for what Wall Mart sells to consumers, they get the money for what they sell to Wall Mart. What was pointed out was that the amount of money made cannot possibly equate to 80,000 shipped gamecubes. In fact, 800,000 seems to fit much better into the eqation. So your analogy is flawed.
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Personal? nah, I'm just argumentitive... Also I don't
Why is this number so hard to beleive? Mistakes like that are taken very seriously by shareholders. I really don't think they would release a document like that and have a press annoucement regarding the current situation unless it were true... IGN didn't check anything, they just changed the number since it looked wrong (like many other websites).
Personal? nah, I'm just argumentitive... Also I don't
Why is this number so hard to beleive? Mistakes like that are taken very seriously by shareholders. I really don't think they would release a document like that and have a press annoucement regarding the current situation unless it were true... IGN didn't check anything, they just changed the number since it looked wrong (like many other websites).
"But Nintendo doesn't get money for what Wall Mart sells to consumers, they get the money for what they sell to Wall Mart. What was pointed out was that the amount of money made cannot possibly equate to 80,000 shipped gamecubes. In fact, 800,000 seems to fit much better into the eqation. So your analogy is flawed."
No, your ability to comprehend is flawed..
I said that, Nintendo doesnt get money from what Walmart sells consumers, they get money upfront when they ship the units to Walmarts Distributor, So the even if they only shipped 80,000, and only made money for the 80,000, that doesnt mean that only 80,000 units were sold, because there is such a large surplus in these stores, 6million is a LOT to be laying around.
No, your ability to comprehend is flawed..
I said that, Nintendo doesnt get money from what Walmart sells consumers, they get money upfront when they ship the units to Walmarts Distributor, So the even if they only shipped 80,000, and only made money for the 80,000, that doesnt mean that only 80,000 units were sold, because there is such a large surplus in these stores, 6million is a LOT to be laying around.
Wait a second, who has the burden of proof here? The people that believe nintendo's own report? Or the people that think Mintendo is reporting wrong numbers? LOL, which is the more likely of the two? Just look at the recent gamecube sales in the UK.
If you one of the people that think Nintendo's report is wrong, then it's YOUR burden to prove that these numbers are wrong. You're currently doing nothing more than speculating.
So to say what you said:
Unless you, or anyone else, can show a way of even coming close to proving this huge $90,000,000 mistake, then you can just dismiss any thoughts of error IMO.
If you one of the people that think Nintendo's report is wrong, then it's YOUR burden to prove that these numbers are wrong. You're currently doing nothing more than speculating.
So to say what you said:
Unless you, or anyone else, can show a way of even coming close to proving this huge $90,000,000 mistake, then you can just dismiss any thoughts of error IMO.
Qroach said:you guys can continue to argue about this. Trying to come up with reason for the numbers is foolish when you don't know exactly what makes that number.
It's just rough analysis - I don't really care one way or the other. For all I know, Nintendo could have sold $100 million worth of peripherals... Or I got the margins completely wrong. I don't pretend to have answers for anything.
Ok, I did even more PDF digging, and I have to conclude that the 80,000 number is indeed correct. During the press conference, Nintendo states that they have sold ~9.6 million GameCubes. This number has been widely reported and is not disputed by anyone.
Looking in their first quarter 2004 PDF, it states:
80,000 GC's sold this quarter, 9.63 million to date.
Looking in their report for the last fiscal year (2003) it states:
5.76 million cubes sold this year, 9.55 million to date.
9.55 million + 80,000 = (drum roll) 9.63 million.
Had they indeed sold 800,000 cubes last quarter, the LtD number would have been 10.53 million. I guess that settles that (my previous "analysis" goes right of the window, sorry about that)
Looking in their first quarter 2004 PDF, it states:
80,000 GC's sold this quarter, 9.63 million to date.
Looking in their report for the last fiscal year (2003) it states:
5.76 million cubes sold this year, 9.55 million to date.
9.55 million + 80,000 = (drum roll) 9.63 million.
Had they indeed sold 800,000 cubes last quarter, the LtD number would have been 10.53 million. I guess that settles that (my previous "analysis" goes right of the window, sorry about that)
I'm just wondering who's talking about what and where at this point. If places were saying Nintendo was issuing corrections, WERE they? If genuine, just what Nintendo reps were making those statements, and if not, what idiots were making shit up as they went along?
We've known from the BEGINNING that's it's been about poor communications, and that's still the case now.
We've known from the BEGINNING that's it's been about poor communications, and that's still the case now.
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I didn't say that anyone had to prove anything. I just said that unless you can account for the $90,000,000 you shouldn't just dismiss it as foolisness. If you believe the 80,000 shipped number despite this then fine, I do too actually (80,000 shipped 750,000 sold IMO), I was only saying that its still worth considering.
I didn't say that anyone had to prove anything. I just said that unless you can account for the $90,000,000 you shouldn't just dismiss it as foolisness. If you believe the 80,000 shipped number despite this then fine, I do too actually (80,000 shipped 750,000 sold IMO), I was only saying that its still worth considering.
Ty, you're totally correct. Sigh some people still don't beleive it...
Teasy, you can go on believing what you want, but you're just making stuff up. The number is SOLD not shipped. 80, 000 sold... It says so in the report. Imo it's not worth considering when it actually is foolishness people use for reasoning. Websites made up the fact nintendo has clarified that number. It hasn't been changed or been corrected and is what actually occured.
some people still don't beleive it... Teasy, you can go on believing what you want, but you're just making stuff up. The number is SOLD not shipped. 80, 000 sold... It says so in the report. Imo it's not worth considering when it actually is foolishness people use for reasoning. Websites made up the fact nintendo has clarified that number. It hasn't been changed or been corrected and is what actually occured.
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Didn't the GCN sell around 125,000 units in May according to TRSTS?
i think TRST gives numbers sold to consumers
while numbers discussed here is about the consoles that nintendo ships to distributors/retailers.
so maybe 125 000 consoles were sold but retailers didn't order the same amount to replace them.
probably retailers don't sell them as quickly as nintendo would like so they ordered less consoles than planned so nintendo had so much overstock they had to momentanely stop production.
while numbers discussed here is about the consoles that nintendo ships to distributors/retailers.
so maybe 125 000 consoles were sold but retailers didn't order the same amount to replace them.
probably retailers don't sell them as quickly as nintendo would like so they ordered less consoles than planned so nintendo had so much overstock they had to momentanely stop production.
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