Nintendo Switch 2

I guess there are a few remaining questions about Nintendo vs T239:

1) Is this really a salvaged T234 or did Nintendo take T234 and ask to customize it with ( for example ) Ada Lovelace RT features ?

I'm strongly inclined to think that T239 is nothing more than a cut-down \ salvage part but I wonder if anyone has any hint to the contrary?
nVidia doesnt have any consumer SoCs. Is has to be a custom SoC designed for Nintendo. So there is a possibility that the GPU is not pure Ampere.
 
I guess there are a few remaining questions about Nintendo vs T239:

1) Is this really a salvaged T234 or did Nintendo take T234 and ask to customize it with ( for example ) Ada Lovelace RT features ?

2) Is it possible to use RT cores from otherwise disabled SM's? ( Eg, instead of 12RT cores, it will have 14 or 16 )?

3) In a similar line of reasoning, could they have partially enabled other parts of the SM's and use the execution units for improved performance \ features?

I'm strongly inclined to think that T239 is nothing more than a cut-down \ salvage part but I wonder if anyone has any hint to the contrary?
1. it's a semi-custom design. the only relation to the T234 is the CPU and GPU IP. they're completely separate otherwise. there are some power gating features from Lovelace, but that's it
2. no
3. probably not since each SM has it's own set of resources to function first

the nvidia leak laid the T239 bare. nearly everything was known about it and how it's known that the T234 and the T239 aren't the same thing
 
Now, will it include gaming devices?

Video game consoles are classified under HTS code - 9504.50.00

It's not included as an exemption in the list referenced - https://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/USDHSCBP-3db9e55?wgt_ref=USDHSCBP_WIDGET_2

Some devices like the Steam Deck by the way also may fall under video game console (the HTS codes are international and used by most countries). I believe at least it was classified as such when importing to Canada (qualifying it for our recent GST exemption). Not sure what the possible implications if they were to play around with this.
 
North America pre-orders back on for April 24th. My understanding is that launch prices will be held but after that prices could change. They indicate that Accessories may not be the same price. So I assume they are talking about controllers.

Looks like Nintendo is willing to eat some losses here, this might be the cheapest time to get a switch, also the hardest time with limited supply at these price points.
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CDN pricing:
Retail pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 will begin in Canada on April 24, 2025. Pricing for Nintendo Switch 2 in Canada will remain at $629.99 for the standalone model, and $699.99 for the Nintendo Switch 2 + Mario Kart World bundle.
We apologize for the retail pre-order delay. We thank our customers for their patience, and we share their excitement to experience Nintendo Switch 2 starting June 5, 2025.
Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price - As of April 18, 2025
  • Nintendo Switch 2 - $629.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 + Mario Kart World Bundle - $699.99
  • Mario Kart World - $109.99
  • Donkey Kong Bananza - $99.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller - $109.99
  • Joy-Con 2 Pair - $124.99
  • Joy-Con 2 Charging Grip - $49.99
  • Joy-Con 2 Strap - $19.99
  • Joy-Con 2 Wheel Set - $29.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 Camera - $69.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 Dock Set - $154.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 Carrying Case & Screen Protector - $49.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 All-In-One Carrying Case - $109.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 AC Adapter - $39.99
  • Samsung microSD Express Card – 256GB for Nintendo Switch™ 2 - $84.99
US Pricing
Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price - As of April 18, 2025
  • Nintendo Switch 2 - $449.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 + Mario Kart World Bundle - $499.99
  • Mario Kart World - $79.99
  • Donkey Kong Bananza - $69.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller - $84.99
  • Joy-Con 2 Pair - $94.99
  • Joy-Con 2 Charging Grip - $39.99
  • Joy-Con 2 Strap - $13.99
  • Joy-Con 2 Wheel Set - $24.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 Camera - $54.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 Dock Set - $119.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 Carrying Case & Screen Protector - $39.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 All-In-One Carrying Case - $84.99
  • Nintendo Switch 2 AC Adapter - $34.99
  • Samsung microSD Express Card – 256GB for Nintendo Switch™ 2 - $59.99
 
North America pre-orders back on for April 24th. My understanding is that launch prices will be held but after that prices could change. They indicate that Accessories may not be the same price. So I assume they are talking about controllers.

Looks like Nintendo is willing to eat some losses here, this might be the cheapest time to get a switch, also the hardest time with limited supply at these price points.

I wouldn't say Nintendo is eating losses. They are still making a profit.

After this whole Tariff shenanigans and once sales slow down I expect them to drop the price. They won't reach Switch 1 sales with these prices.
 
So launching with 4 year old tech? This thing could be so much better, either better power draw and much longer battery life, or just more gaming.
 
Nintendo using a processor taped out in 2021 for a 2025 console :censored:
not really unusual. Microsoft had a plan to use a processor designed in 2024, taped out in 2026 for a close to 2029 launch. once you head to tapeout, unless something catastrophic happens, there's not going to be much change to the SoC
 

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The benchmarks in this video make no sense. The PS4 is much stronger than a 750ti in practice. Switch 2 in portable will be weaker than a PS4 in raster, not stronger.
 
The benchmarks in this video make no sense. The PS4 is much stronger than a 750ti in practice. Switch 2 in portable will be weaker than a PS4 in raster, not stronger.
Technical reviewers like DF kept insisting that the PS4 was similar in perf to a 750Ti because they did comparisons with games at the time that mostly used last generation rendering techniques with outdated APIs such as DX11 ...

Sadly, they didn't revisit that comparison towards the end of the generation when games started to ship with more mature DX12 implementations and more advanced rendering features such as async compute, GPU-driven rendering, or bindless ...
 
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