News & Rumours: Playstation 4/ Orbis *spin*

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I think it's just because there hasn't been anything new for a while, and there's no drama anymore.
We know so much about the specs that rumormongers like me don't have any margin left to invent something.

Sony announced too soon, the buzz is gone.
 
I heard you have to give two DNA samples in order to even boot Orbis.To play a game requires yet another sample.
 
Ok new rumor for the hungry ;) April/May event.

Expect a big announcement from Sony about its next-gen PlayStation 4 console this month or possibly in early May, a source familiar with the company's marketing strategy told PCMag this week.

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But Sony may be parceling out information about its coming game console to build up buzz, according to the source. Some industry watchers anticipated another reveal or at least some PS4 news at last week's Game Developer Conference, but the company only tipped some details about the underlying hardware, Ars Technica reported.

GDC was probably the last big stage for the company to talk up the successor to the PlayStation 3 before the E3 gaming conference in June, unless Sony manufactures its own event. That's precisely what Sony plans to do, according to the source, who said late April/early May will be the likeliest timeframe for a full-blown launch of the PS4.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417397,00.asp
 
To be honest, the most important points are still missing, the price, the launch date, and the console design which is VERY important, I read on the internet that if it's not exactly the perfect color, people will buy an xbox instead.
 
They are after the developers at this stage. That's why they announced early.

From our perspective, we would hope to see developers port their stuff quickly to PS4. Hopefully the goodies they show won't be just videos, but high quality, playable chapters. The familiar tools and large + fast memory should help. It is important if PS4 have zero b/c.

The actual Orbis user experience (OS, PSEye, Gaikai, DS4, PS+, ...) will probably be revealed in stages. There should be unannounced features and service offering.

Didn't some Sony exec talk about female consumers recently ?
 
To be honest, the most important points are still missing, the price, the launch date, and the console design which is VERY important, I read on the internet that if it's not exactly the perfect color, people will buy an xbox instead.

If you look at console launches going back decades, a lot of this stuff isn't hard to figure out.

1) Price: base model: $399, higher tier: $499 (what the difference between those tiers would be is unknown, but doesn't matter because most people will buy the higher one anyway which is why it exists)
2) Launch date: mid-November, certainly before Black Friday. I'd heavily bet sometime the week before.
3) Console design: who freaking cares. it'll be black.
 
If you look at console launches going back decades, a lot of this stuff isn't hard to figure out.

1) Price: base model: $399, higher tier: $499 (what the difference between those tiers would be is unknown, but doesn't matter because most people will buy the higher one anyway which is why it exists)
2) Launch date: mid-November, certainly before Black Friday. I'd heavily bet sometime the week before.
3) Console design: who freaking cares. it'll be black.

We will need the new PS+ and PSN prices too ! Plus new game price. There may be partnerships with other companies.

Console design may include SKU family design, not just the game console.
 
Yep. Orbis is a known quantity. The only left now is software and services, which can't really be discussed until revealed. Unless people wanna start making up rumours. I heard you can only create a PS4 user account if you provide a valid credit card, and other users of the console have to pay to play games individually, so you can't buy a game and let your bro' play it without him paying. :yep2:

Have they spoke about PSN pricing scheme already ? Would be great if you could throw me a link.
 
What new game price?

They can't get away with higher prices than this gen.

Haven't sales been lower the past year?

It seems game prices are dropping not too far after release.
 
Thing I don't want to see are ads. Sounds like MS is going to have more ads.

Mobile games either use ads to distribute free games or charge to get rid of ads. That's a fair tradeoff.

But charge $60 for games and then make you sit through ads?

Paying for a product and still having ads is... dead. I hope you don't pay for cable, satellite, watch movies or TV shows because EVERYTHING has ads.
 
What new game price?

They can't get away with higher prices than this gen.

Haven't sales been lower the past year?

It seems game prices are dropping not too far after release.

Prices have been higher in the past, were you not around during the SNES era?
 
TV has always had ads. We'll see if ads in games are tolerated. Show production and sports broadcast rights are far more expensive than games production.

But maybe people will accept more intrusive ads in games. There are suckers born every day.


When were SNES prices the norm, like 20 years ago? Manufacturing prices were higher and if you wanted to play games you had little choice. Charging more than $60 when there are cheap and free mobile games ... Lets see if they get away with that.
 
On what information are you basing the assumption games will have more intrusive ads in the coming generation?

More well targeted != more intrusive.
 
If I am not mistaken Jack Tretton already said that prices for games will go form a minimum of $0.99 to a maximum of $60.
 
They have other stuf they can "announce".

4K support, now that they presented a $700 player at NAB it's obvious that they could present the PS4 as a 4K player, Console and everything else machine for only 399,- and HDMI 2.0 (super deep color? :))

Not as big as Blu-Ray nor important but still something that would sell to the avs crowd.

They didn't really reveal a lot about the controller, there is more to be had there.

PS++? Final specs? Final look? Price? Digital Market for used Digital Purchases? PS1+PS2 BC :)

So far i am satisfied, price doesn't matter that much to me. I just need Microsoft to step up to the plate and not do anything stupid so i can get a 720 from launch, perfect console year!
 
TV has always had ads. We'll see if ads in games are tolerated. Show production and sports broadcast rights are far more expensive than games production.

God no. Ads are the reason I don't watch TV. It's the reason I have the time on my PS3 set to 4 years into the future so I don't have that stupid f*cking news ticker in the right corner. It's also the reason why I might start to aprove of piracy of blurays/dvds, because they are starting to shove down cheap quality and more ads down our throat. It's the reason why I browse all my web-content through Squid (Proxy) where I have an extensive list of sites/domains that are blocked purely because their sole purpose is to deliver ads. I even block Facebook.

If we start seeing ads in games - I'm off, and that's a guarantee. :devilish:

Perhaps product placement in games, like we have in movies. But ads? no f*cking way. :devilish:
 
If I am not mistaken Jack Tretton already said that prices for games will go form a minimum of $0.99 to a maximum of $60.

People (largely game journalist) are taking that as gospel, or some promise that games won't be more than $60. However, if you look at the context of the statement he appears to simply be giving an example of the range of games he feels they need (or want) on PSN and in retail.

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"I think people are willing to pay if they see value there and I think there's more choice than ever before for consumers. We're going to welcome free-to-play models; games from 99 cents up to those $60 games," Tretton said. "But if you really see where the heat is for the true gamer on the console it's still that big-form experience that typically runs upwards of $50 million to develop and will justify that $60 price point and will give people hours and hours of gameplay on a daily basis for months and years to come."
 
Sony announced too soon, the buzz is gone.
They still have a lot of stuff to show until launch to reignate the buzz.

For instance, they actually kept most of their AAA next-gen titles under wraps up until now. Moreover, they still need to show the final external design, etc.

I think the first event was very important in order to address analysts and devs and build up the notion of beating Microsoft to the first official next-gen announcement.

With the Playstation Event in February, they basically got most of the technical and high-level stuff out of the way - and can better focus on games and services now.

E3 will be very interesting.
 
@Gradthrawn

Ok I tracked the source back and what Tretton meant is that the $60 model is still justified.
Really not a single site reported that conversation correctly.
 
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