Well I'm just downloading the update. Looking forward to rest/resume my ps4 all day. Cause now I can.
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installed and the button remapping isannoying. It even more confusing than the default inconsistent revrsed X/O.
Suspend mode works great, but I am mostly amazed how awesome Remote Play is in 60fps mode! It's so smooth and responsive, and even 30fps games preform better inside 60fps mode.
Also, Vita now has same accessiblity options as PS4 including button remapping, but we cant remap touch zones. Only physical buttons.
Also, Vita now has same accessiblity options as PS4 including button remapping, but we cant remap touch zones. Only physical buttons.
djskribbles
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Can you disable the auto capture when a trophy is earned?
the shutdown button is now have 1 mode click 
Love_In_Rio
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1 more click you mean...Yeah, I don´t understand how they improve a lot of things and mess the obvious/already working ones.
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Gradthrawn
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Did some quick testing this morning. It seems to suspend all running apps except the web browser. So, for example, with Dyling Light open along with Crunchy Roll (paused on a video), and the web browser on YouTube, resuming from Rest restores both Dyling Light and Crunchy to their previous state (browser re-opens the last page that was open, as it does whenever it's active state has been lost). Fairly quickly too, I might add (will need to time it later).
Tested with a ~743 MB video copying it to USB. Took 1:59 (M:SS). Meant to check before the update but completely forgot about it.
PS4 Internal Drive: Samsung 840 EVO 500 GB (MZ-7TE500BW)
USB Drive: SanDisk Extreme CZ80 32 GB (SDCZ80-032G-GAM46)
I'm counting the same number of button presses to go into Rest Mode. If you want Power Off to be the same as before disable rest mode features and it will move back up to the front (replacing where Rest Mode is with that stuff enabled) or go to the power button on the home screen instead of holding the PS Button.
Tested with a ~743 MB video copying it to USB. Took 1:59 (M:SS). Meant to check before the update but completely forgot about it.
PS4 Internal Drive: Samsung 840 EVO 500 GB (MZ-7TE500BW)
USB Drive: SanDisk Extreme CZ80 32 GB (SDCZ80-032G-GAM46)
the shutdown button is now have 1 mode click
I'm counting the same number of button presses to go into Rest Mode. If you want Power Off to be the same as before disable rest mode features and it will move back up to the front (replacing where Rest Mode is with that stuff enabled) or go to the power button on the home screen instead of holding the PS Button.
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Inuhanyou
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Suspend resume on console is like a revelation to me. I've obviously been used to it on a computer, and my last handheld console(PSP) was able to do it(which blew my mind at the time), but having that kind of thing on a console is just weird.
You can literally stop/start it right in the middle of gameplay. Of course i was also blown away by PS4 being able to go straight to OS from a game instantly after never before being able to do so on console, so maybe im not used to these newfangled things
You can literally stop/start it right in the middle of gameplay. Of course i was also blown away by PS4 being able to go straight to OS from a game instantly after never before being able to do so on console, so maybe im not used to these newfangled things
Seems the quick menu is still a mess.
It hides the shutdown behind sub menu and there's 2 rest mode.
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the power on dashboard is the same with shutdown hidden behind power sub menu.
i wonder is there nobody notice this cumbersome power in the beta O_O
It hides the shutdown behind sub menu and there's 2 rest mode.
@Gradthrawn
the power on dashboard is the same with shutdown hidden behind power sub menu.
i wonder is there nobody notice this cumbersome power in the beta O_O
Gradthrawn
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Forgot to mention, the "Discover" feature is simple but nice. Gives a brief description of an option under Notifications, often contextual, and will take you directly to that option in the menus if you click on the alert after opening it.
I suspect their working assumption is that most users either go into Rest Mode or Power Off most of the time, rather then switching back and forth between them. In which case their current setup removes some option clutter from the menu. If someone wants Power Off front and center they'll need to disable Rest Mode features in settings.
I recall seeing Power Off and Rest mode both listed directly on the Power menu accessed via the Home Screen. I'll have to double check when I get a chance (and grab a screenshot).
I suspect their working assumption is that most users either go into Rest Mode or Power Off most of the time, rather then switching back and forth between them. In which case their current setup removes some option clutter from the menu. If someone wants Power Off front and center they'll need to disable Rest Mode features in settings.
I recall seeing Power Off and Rest mode both listed directly on the Power menu accessed via the Home Screen. I'll have to double check when I get a chance (and grab a screenshot).
The problem is, when I'm playing destiny. Why I need to suspend? It's an online game
Gradthrawn
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I'm not sure I understand how that's a problem. Either enter Rest Mode and suspend the game, in which case when you power back on you'll simply be booted back to Destiny's main menu. That, or, close the game and then enter Rest Mode, in which case when you power back on you'll be at the Home Screen and have to re-launch the game back into the main menu. Additionally, if you don't want to launch back directly into Destiny from Rest Mode (with application suspending enabled), go back to the PS Home Screen before entering Rest Mode. From my brief testing, Rest Mode with app suspending enabled will take you back to whatever screen you were last on, regardless of the application(s) running.
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Unless this is a power saving thing you're worried about. In which case, I can see how you would be inconvenienced by wanting Rest Mode options and still doing full Power Off depending on the circumstances. As I mentioned previously, I'm guessing that wasn't their target use case (either someone suspends, or someone powers off).
basically that is my use case, just like on PC.
theres no "either/or" cases. I just do what i want to do. Same step.
Now PS4 2.5 added one additional step if i wanted the behavior above.
the even weirder thing is, the Suspend button is duplicated on the quick menu
1 on the main quick menu screen
1 on the power sub menu.
at first i though the button hidden behind power sub menu was the classic rest mode (no suspend) but in reality, the description said it is the same suspend mode.
- i suspend when i want to suspent
- i shut down when i want to shutdown.
theres no "either/or" cases. I just do what i want to do. Same step.
Now PS4 2.5 added one additional step if i wanted the behavior above.
the even weirder thing is, the Suspend button is duplicated on the quick menu
1 on the main quick menu screen
1 on the power sub menu.
at first i though the button hidden behind power sub menu was the classic rest mode (no suspend) but in reality, the description said it is the same suspend mode.
Power consumption during suspend mode (in rest mode) has being tested: 4.5 W, the suspend mode alone costs 1.5 W (3 W in rest mode not suspended). All those tests done without USB but with Internet connection on.
EDIT: As expected you can add 5 W if you enable USB charging during any of those modes.
EDIT: As expected you can add 5 W if you enable USB charging during any of those modes.
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Gradthrawn
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Now I'm curious. Is the issue that's what you're use to doing or is the issue power consumption?
instead of 2.5 is like this:
cant sony make something like this?
or this?
@Gradthrawn
its an issue of what i want to do with my console and dislike being forced to change the normal behavior. Its also an issue of cumbersome UI (okay, PS4 is much more worse in other place than Quick Menu but now they made quick menu worse without fixing the other UI).
when i want to turn off, i turn off. when i wan to suspend, i suspend.
cant sony make something like this?
or this?
@Gradthrawn
its an issue of what i want to do with my console and dislike being forced to change the normal behavior. Its also an issue of cumbersome UI (okay, PS4 is much more worse in other place than Quick Menu but now they made quick menu worse without fixing the other UI).
when i want to turn off, i turn off. when i wan to suspend, i suspend.
I measured the time needed to resume games, from pressing PS button to gameplay (or automatic pause menu in some games), I find between 6 or 7 seconds in all those cases:
- Driveclub (pause menu), MGS5 (gameplay mode), Far Cry 4 (gameplay mode in offline mode, short gameplay then connection lost screen in online mode), TLOURE (gameplay mode), Tomb Raider DE (gameplay mode) and OS menu (resuming from rest mode without games running).
- Driveclub (pause menu), MGS5 (gameplay mode), Far Cry 4 (gameplay mode in offline mode, short gameplay then connection lost screen in online mode), TLOURE (gameplay mode), Tomb Raider DE (gameplay mode) and OS menu (resuming from rest mode without games running).
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