News & Rumours: Playstation 4/ Orbis *spin*

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PS+ will get better as the PS4 ages. It's only ~7 months old. My guess is we'll start to see AAA/retail games in the fall or during the holidays.
 
Interesting. That's not really that catastrophic if you're someone who stomps through a game and never touches it again, but it still feels high, and rofl at the idea of one-shot buying a rental period that costs vastly more than a new hard copy of the game.

Do cloud saves transfer between your PS3 local games and PS Now instances? If so, a person with a PS3 and PS Now ability could purchase both PSN digital FFXIII-2 ($20) and a $5 4-hour rental over PS Now to get the full game and start playing it immediately, while still paying less than a 90-day rental.
 
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Why do you have to pay $15 for a 90-day rental when it costs $15 to buy the game on PS3? < ahahhhaha they must think their audience is dumber than dogshit!

If you have the option to buy a native version, do so. If you don't have a PS3 already it costs $265 to buy the game and $15 to rent it. This service is largely intended for platforms like the PS4, Vita and smart devices that don't have that option. Reportedly like 30% of PS4 owners didn't have a PS3. This may be the only way for those people to play many of these games.

Because of the cost of providing ongoing access to the service it makes sense that there is a "sweet spot" in the pricing structure. Most transactions will likely be in the 1 week range where the pricing seems pretty acceptable.

Do cloud saves transfer between your PS3 local games and PS Now instances?

Yes, I believe that is confirmed. You are using your PSN ID when you play a PS Now game.
 
Why do you have to pay $15 for a 90-day rental when it costs $15 to buy the game on PS3? < ahahhhaha they must think their audience is dumber than dogshit!
It's a beta test, so those are not the final prices or rental periods. Sony have said that the pricing will be ultimately determined by publishers and developers. I can't help thinking this is very much like the $59 full prices in the DRM-Hell Store when the used discs can be easily found for $20.

Such sour grapes
Very dissonant
Much hatred
Wow
 
I dont see the problem with PSNow pricing, 8$ for weekly rental is the sweetspot for me. That service has real costs on the backend, and if offers unique gaming experience to users who dont have PS3 console [Vita, HDTV and all other future compatibile devices].

Plus we dont know the full picture yet, and this pricing is not final. They said that they will offer individual game rentals and subscription package, which is something that can be very successful if done right.
 
Those are awful prices, the 4 hour option is silly, it should be 3 days minimum and all those prices are too high.
Looking at it from an executive POV - If you compare the rental prices to renting a movie, which is $5 for 2 hours, it's excellent value. Ultimately Sony don't want people able to play the entire game for less than the cost of the game, otherwise they may well eat into their game sales. If the average game is 10-20 hours to complete, $8 seems very reasonable. And a month of a game at $15 seems pretty reasonable as well.

Maybe because I haven't done the rental thing before I'm seeing these numbers very differently?? $15 for an experience (TLoU, I:SS, whatever else can be completed in a month due to a 10-20 hour campaign) doesn't seem that bad value.

If these prices are 5x too much, people are wanting access to a full game for a month, enough time to complete it, for $3. How is that reasonable? I suppose the pricing is affected by economics and ability to buy a second hand version for cheap, plus it on afterwards.
 
If these prices are 5x too much, people are wanting access to a full game for a month, enough time to complete it, for $3. How is that reasonable? I suppose the pricing is affected by economics and ability to buy a second hand version for cheap, plus it on afterwards.

It's really dumb. I normally like Jason at Kotaku, but his article on the pricing was both myopic and hyperbolic. Focusing on the longest rental terms and assuming everyone has the option to buy the native version of these games creates a distorted view of what is actually being offered here. The pricing for the rental periods people will actually use are extremely reasonable, especially considering you are renting not just a game, but the hardware to play it on.
 
The pricing sucks. There's no way I'd spend that money to rent ps3 games. I'd just spend money on something else. If you're a person who has a really good Internet connection to use this, then you probably have access to cheap games elsewhere.
 
The pricing sucks.
Why? What's the relative value proposition? I'm not saying it's a wrong view, but it's one no-one's yet articulated. Why is $5 to rent a 2 hour movie okay but $5 to rent 4 hours of game not?

The 4 hour to me is basically for the 'you want to play this game round someone's house in an evening' option, which doesn't seem bad value. "Anyone want to watch a film? There's a load to steam online for $5." "Hey, here's an idea. Let's rent some game like Uncharted or MGS. It's like an interactive movie, so you can watch but also get to shout at whoever's playing, and we can hotseat." In that case, $5 for an evening's entertainment seems okay value to me. If you want to play a whole game, you pay one of the higher prices and get enough time to fit it in, in which case
$15 to play a game isn't all that bad. Obviously if you get it free of PSN+ or for cheap in a sale, it's not great pricing, but it depends on the library.

Obviously value is relative so there may be some comparisons showing this is really bad, but I'm not seeing it and need someone to spell it out for me.
 
The 4 hours almost seems like a typo to me... You have four hours and then the next choice is 7 days. WTF? If it would be 24h, it'd make some sense imo.
 
It still feels quite weird to me that 4h can be $5 and 168h $8, hard to see for example in the case of that Final Fantasy game the 4h making any sense to anyone. The pricing is really geared towards the 7 and 30 day options. 90d and especially 4h are quite bad.
 
My idea is that unlike movies that can be finished in one sitting and you probably don't need to re watch it, most games can't be finished in one sitting, have a variable finishing time depending on the player, some are re playable, some are just a competitive game that can be played multiple times. So it might be better if the rent time directly tied to the play time. So 4hrs rent is 4hrs play time.
 
The pricing is without any doubt subject to change. And it's certain that Sony will do so as they see fit.

But I am glad that second hand games are still a viable option :)

Besides, they will have start with prices that are balanced to their capacity.
 
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