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Slowed down gif:
http://i.minus.com/iH3EKWV7mxZTZ.gif
Looks great, really minimal lag. And this is on Vita Slim, whose LCD presumably has little slower display refresh speed than OLED vita. But we also dont know in what display mode was HDTV in [gaming mode on/off].
I'm so glad that Remote Play is finally viable.
The gif is 4.x MB but anyway, on my mac I can advance it frame by frame, and I count two frames of lag. this means... 66ms of added lag? Unless the camera was shooting at 60 fps (which I doubt). Anyway, still impressive, but only if the TV has zero lag!
Disclaimer: I want to play fighters as well as KZ:SF multiplayer on remote play so that is why I need zero lag.
Yes ... it looks very playable, but unless it's a really good game-mode TV, you'd really expect the Vita to be ahead of the TV rather than behind. That said, Sony is one of the few TV makers I think that actually do provide good Game mode performance, so this may still be pretty good. But I remember that the first footage we saw of the Wii U pad had the Wii U pad 66ms ahead of the TV rather than behind.
Still, I'm very happy with this functionality. Hopefully it also doesn't degrade too quickly at some distance of the PS4.
If this is the new Vita, by the way, the colors look at least identical to the TV, so that's promising (we've seen some bad comparison shots between the OLED and LCD versions online before)
That said, Sony is one of the few TV makers I think that actually do provide good Game mode performance, so this may still be pretty good. But I remember that the first footage we saw of the Wii U pad had the Wii U pad 66ms ahead of the TV rather than behind.Still, I'm very happy with this functionality. Hopefully it also doesn't degrade too quickly at some distance of the PS4.
If this is the new Vita, by the way, the colors look at least identical to the TV, so that's promising (we've seen some bad comparison shots between the OLED and LCD versions online before)
Yes ... it looks very playable, but unless it's a really good game-mode TV, you'd really expect the Vita to be ahead of the TV rather than behind.
Still, I'm very happy with this functionality. Hopefully it also doesn't degrade too quickly at some distance of the PS4.
If this is the new Vita, by the way, the colors look at least identical to the TV, so that's promising (we've seen some bad comparison shots between the OLED and LCD versions online before)
Same here, I would love to play my PS4 in another room, or if the woman wants to view a tv show, allow it (
)Btw it should look identical to the TV because that is a lcd model
I would suggest getting a second TV. They're dirt cheap nowdays. Or most people probably already have multiple TV's. I have a 42" in the living, but my 27" 720P first HDTV from 2005 that I bought to go with my launch 360 is still going strong as a bedroom TV. And there's also my 27" PC Monitor.
Dont get me wrong it's kind of cool tech-wise, but imo real practical utility is low.
Don't forget the second PS4 - and make sure you are saving games using PS+'s automatic upload or you won't be able to switch from your main console to your secondary. Of course, we have to hope the game has frequent save points and the synching between consoles is easy and fast.
I could list a host of other problems with the second TV theory that make it a no go for a lot of us, but I think stopping here is fine to make the point. There is a lot of utility for a lot of people in being able to just continue on a second screen.
I know that this feature alone has convinced my wife and I to buy a PS Vita if it works as advertised - something I had no intention of doing before I found out about it. The ability for my wife or kids to come upstairs and say "Hey, can I have the television?" and me be able to go "Sure" while I continue playing my game is pretty huge.
Not every feature is for everyone - but I would say this has a pretty solid use case.
1. TV occupied by other family members
2. Privacy, in case your roommate is easily distracted, or you're playing pr0n
3. Comfort. In-bed gaming is relaxing... or rather therapeutic.
Edit: if the game is good, Vita's screen and audio are good enough to make the player forget about screen size. In fact, many people have not-so-great TV compared to Vita's screen.
#1 Here is better gif of Youtube footage
8 frames, 1 frame per second. Vita is indeed trailing by 2 frames, but that is still good result IMO. We need to get detailed testing with 60fps cameras, including OLED Vita..
#2 Sony is promoting this using their best gaming HDTV with "0.1" frames of display lag
"低遅延 0.1フレーム" = "low lag 0.1 frame"
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Sony announced how their PS3 to PS4 game plan works:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/09/19/how-to-upgrade-select-ps3-games-to-their-ps4-versions/
I expect we'll see something similar for XB1
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/09/19/how-to-upgrade-select-ps3-games-to-their-ps4-versions/
I expect we'll see something similar for XB1
You will not get zero lag. BTW, how much input lag does your current setup have?
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Edit: Nice work DieH@rd Saw the model number of that TV on last nights stream.
Saw the model number of that TV on last nights stream.#2 Sony is promoting this using their best gaming HDTV with "0.1" frames of display lag
"低遅延 0.1フレーム" = "low lag 0.1 frame"
WOOT! Their W802 has 17 ms with 1080p input....
Oh boy, Sony really have great low latency models. This 47" model has 6ms [if the review is legit]! 
I can tell you that TV (KDL42W65) should have 16ms of display lag.
For the record that's one of the best TV in therms of display lag if not the best TV the best input lag.
Unfortunately (huge euphemism) disply lag for that TV too is around 16ms, winch is still fantastic anyway.
It's better than WiiU pad and better even that Sony 3D gaming monitor.
For the record that's one of the best TV in therms of display lag if not the best TV the best input lag.
Oh boy, Sony really have great low latency models. This 47" model has 6ms [if the review is legit]!
Unfortunately (huge euphemism) disply lag for that TV too is around 16ms, winch is still fantastic anyway.
It's better than WiiU pad and better even that Sony 3D gaming monitor.
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I would expect that you'll have 3 to 4 frames of lag, at best, if that video is accurate. I don't particularly buy the claim of 0.1 frame of display lag. It will most likely be 1 frame, if it is very good. A lot of tvs have terrible input lag, so for those people the remote play may actually be the same or better.
Cool, thanks for the heads up.
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