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temesgen said:
apparently Sony is close to entering agreement with Viacom for IP cable service:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324823804579014901418093422.html

The devil will certainly be in the details but this a positive development.

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another article

http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/15/4...have-preliminary-deal-for-internet-tv-service
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this is a really big deal to me and likely bigger than all of ms tv control shenanigans with ease. i would love to ditch my cable sub.

but, i have to question why things like this dont exist yet. there seems to be big barriers. ms was supposedly planning something like this a few years ago but got cold feet, because the big cable conglomerates dont like it. we will see...

i wouldn't mind seeing sony open the floodgates here.

The article is also unclear, it calls it a pay TV service. If it's just going to be "like cable and just as expensive but over my console", that's obviously not very compelling. What I want is ala carte TV channels over IP. So that say, I could pick and choose what I sub too and save money. But the big media conglomerates dont necessarily want that to happen because they lose money. The article doesn't really make it clear they're talking about the latter, so have my doubts. Above poster summed it up best with "devil is in the details" here.
 
That John Olick should fire his brother-in-law or whoever his "Harvard Lawyer" is and hire someone with actual experience in the industry.
 
Rangers said:
this is a really big deal to me and likely bigger than all of ms tv control shenanigans with ease. i would love to ditch my cable sub.

but, i have to question why things like this dont exist yet. there seems to be big barriers. ms was supposedly planning something like this a few years ago but got cold feet, because the big cable conglomerates dont like it. we will see...

i wouldn't mind seeing sony open the floodgates here.

The article is also unclear, it calls it a pay TV service. If it's just going to be "like cable and just as expensive but over my console", that's obviously not very compelling. What I want is ala carte TV channels over IP. So that say, I could pick and choose what I sub too and save money. But the big media conglomerates dont necessarily want that to happen because they lose money. The article doesn't really make it clear they're talking about the latter, so have my doubts. Above poster summed it up best with "devil is in the details" here.
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Assuming this eventually becomes reality the PS4 itself will be the outputting device without the need of any additional device to send the signal to it, right?

If Sony manages to have such service through the PS4, it will negate further XBone's unique selling point of an "All in One". The PS4 is becoming an AIO as well. As it seems now the PS4 will most likely also have seamless transition between apps/games, digital sharing and multitasking functionality. Being able to watch TV on it without the need of an additional decoder is a big plus and much better solution than using a console+decoder from a service provider. The only thing that will be left for Sony in order to stay competitive in all fronts is to support the Eyecamera in a meaningful manner. But so far they have been pretty much silent
 
-tkf- said:
It's a Sony business decision and it's keeping me away from the vita :)
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I have always thought Vita would make a great mecha controller.

I got a small Arduino bot working now. Plan to add a Bluetooth module next so that I can control it from my iPhone/iPad and Vita. ^_^

temesgen said:
apparently Sony is close to entering agreement with Viacom for IP cable service:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324823804579014901418093422.html

The devil will certainly be in the details but this a positive development.

Edit:

another article

http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/15/4...have-preliminary-deal-for-internet-tv-service
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Interesting. Let's see more. :)
 
FYI, Sony has programming in other countries such as India with Sony Entertainment Television.

http://www.setindia.com/

Another example of when people don't really realize how much investment in entertainment products Sony has: music, movies, games, and even TV :)

This agreement is much broader than the PS4, I would suspect. IP TV will be big challenge towards conventional broadcasting giants.
 
Rangers said:
this is a really big deal to me and likely bigger than all of ms tv control shenanigans with ease. i would love to ditch my cable sub.

but, i have to question why things like this dont exist yet. there seems to be big barriers. ms was supposedly planning something like this a few years ago but got cold feet, because the big cable conglomerates dont like it. we will see...

i wouldn't mind seeing sony open the floodgates here.

The article is also unclear, it calls it a pay TV service. If it's just going to be "like cable and just as expensive but over my console", that's obviously not very compelling. What I want is ala carte TV channels over IP. So that say, I could pick and choose what I sub too and save money. But the big media conglomerates dont necessarily want that to happen because they lose money. The article doesn't really make it clear they're talking about the latter, so have my doubts. Above poster summed it up best with "devil is in the details" here.
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Most reports seem to think this deal is basically going to look remarkably like cable tv, where you can only pay for the bundle of channels that the network is providing. I hope that is not true. I'll never pay for any kind of subscription tv service again unless I can pick the channels I want, or the price comes down drastically. I simply can't pay $60+ a month to get the channels I want.
 
Rangers said:
this is a really big deal to me and likely bigger than all of ms tv control shenanigans with ease. i would love to ditch my cable sub.

but, i have to question why things like this dont exist yet. there seems to be big barriers. ms was supposedly planning something like this a few years ago but got cold feet, because the big cable conglomerates dont like it. we will see...

i wouldn't mind seeing sony open the floodgates here.

The article is also unclear, it calls it a pay TV service. If it's just going to be "like cable and just as expensive but over my console", that's obviously not very compelling. What I want is ala carte TV channels over IP. So that say, I could pick and choose what I sub too and save money. But the big media conglomerates dont necessarily want that to happen because they lose money. The article doesn't really make it clear they're talking about the latter, so have my doubts. Above poster summed it up best with "devil is in the details" here.
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I stream 40ish fios channels to my xbox 360... so its out there.

I would also assume with ms's push for tv tv tv they are cutting deals too. They've been trying at it since 2006.

But hopefully they both get it
 
It has the potential to be very affordable because it would have neither the infrastructure nor equipment overhead of Sat and Cable. Satellite subs are pretty affordable until you start adding on all the DVR rentals, and Sony doesn't have to shoot anything into space or install anything on anyone's roof.

Of course this kind of service would really bring the network neutrality and bandwidth cap situation to a head.
 
Brad Grenz said:
It has the potential to be very affordable because it would have neither the infrastructure nor equipment overhead of Sat and Cable. Satellite subs are pretty affordable until you start adding on all the DVR rentals, and Sony doesn't have to shoot anything into space or install anything on anyone's roof.

Of course this kind of service would really bring the network neutrality and bandwidth cap situation to a head.
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Well, ebooks should be cheaper than real books, but in many cases their not. Same with direct download games vs discs in stores. I hope the price works out to be cheaper. Cutting costs can mean lower prices or bigger profits. I'm assuming Viacom is like most tv content producers, which is to say low prices is not in their makeup.
 
Viacom can charge the same carriage rate as they would anybody else. It's Sony who would be the ones undercutting the cable and sat pricing. Since their overhead would be so much less they could still operate profitably. An IPTV service doesn't really have the kind of convenience or usability advantage as eBooks or DD games. Your TV already comes straight to your house and the viewing experience would be basically the same. It's primary selling point would be price.
 
The cost of cable/sattelite has very little to do with the cost of the hardware. Don't expect any significant savings.
 
The cable and satellite folks have already lost me permanently. Let's see if they can work out something for people like me. ^_^
 
patsu said:
The cable and satellite folks have already lost me permanently. Let's see if they can work out something for people like me. ^_^
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I could basically reduce the channels I want to a group of 10 or so. Unfortunately in the current model I'd have to pay some outrageous amount of money ("premium" channels) and get hundreds of additional channels I don't want.

Sony offering a service could shake up the industry a bit if they have some leeway to compete on price, rather than following what seems to be a price-fixing scheme that the cable/satellite providers follow. I think a "pick your channels" model is unlikely, but it would be very exciting if they can offer it. I'm unsure about broadcast rights for different countries in all of this.
 
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