nAo talks about Heavenly Sword (You need to read this)

[Carl B]

PS: Nice interview Xbd & nAo. Excellent read. Thanks!

Well you're very welcome Phil! My pleasure.

Marco is of course great to talk to about all this because... well, for the reasons I stated in the opening blurb of the interview.

 

[mckmas8808]

Well you're very welcome Phil! My pleasure.

Marco is of course great to talk to about all this because... well, for the reasons I stated in the opening blurb of the interview.

Can you try to get an interview from one of the Naughty Dog devs? I want to know more about that jungle game.

 

[Carl B]

Can you try to get an interview from one of the Naughty Dog devs? I want to know more about that jungle game.

LOL, uh.... well I can try.

I actually have my next 'target' in mind already though. It's not so much interviewing folk about games I'm interested in, but rather the technology behind the games.

 

[aselto]

Tell us you aren't interested in technology behind ND's next-gen project, then

 

[mckmas8808]

LOL, uh.... well I can try.

I actually have my next 'target' in mind already though. It's not so much interviewing folk about games I'm interested in, but rather the technology behind the games.

No tell us you are interested in the tech behind the ND game. Oh Oh Oh!!! Maybe the tech behind the Lair game. Yes get an interview with them. If you do I will paypal you some money.

 

[Carl B]

You guys are funny, I'll see about getting that Paypal account ready.

 

[Moloch]

720p upscaled. No-one has 1080p sets anyways, and 720p is sexy, don't worry.

Yes they do.. westinghouse makes real 1080P LCD "monitors" (no speakers or tuner) and there's a few other true 1080P sets- they actually accept a 1080P signal.
Mitsubishi had a 1080i set they were trying to pass off as 1080P but it didn't accept a 1080P signal and nor did it properly deinterlace 1080i signals.

 

[mckmas8808]

Has this PC Heavenly Sword video ever been posted here?

http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox/1169/Heavenly-Sword-Prototype-Footage/

 

[AlNom]

A long long time ago in a far away galaxy....


er... I mean yes. It was back in the 9800Pro/X800 devkit days. I think it was originally from a eurogamer interview/preview. Perhaps the very first public bit of info.

 

[zed]

720p upscaled. No-one has 1080p sets anyways

There is a growing selection of consumer televisions with native 1080p at this time. Among the television sets with a 1080p resolution, however, some are not capable of both accepting and reproducing a 1080p input signal, especially via a digital input such as Digital Visual Interface (DVI) or High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI).[2] In 2003, Sony released Qualia 004, a 1080p-resolution front-projector (it could not accept 1080p signals), while Mitsubishi released a 1080p rear-projection TV; both were based on LCoS technology and had limited availability. Several televisions in 2005 offered 1080p, including sets from Hewlett-Packard, Mitsubishi, Westinghouse Digital, Samsung and Sony. The 2006 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) introduced 1080p displays from most manufacturers, available in various display technologies.

from wiki

personally i believe lumping 720p + 1080p both under hdtv is confusing ( i can see why 720p set makers do it though ) similar confusion exists with usb
Full Speed USB rate of 12 Mbit/s
Hi-Speed USB rate of 480 Mbit/s
perhaps we should start calling them other terms
720p = medium definition, or lesser HD, or inferior HD, others?
1080p = high definition, or greater HD, or superior HD, true HD, enhanced HD, others?

 

[DuckThor Evil]

personally i believe lumping 720p + 1080p both under hdtv is confusing ( i can see why 720p set makers do it though ) similar confusion exists with usb
Full Speed USB rate of 12 Mbit/s
Hi-Speed USB rate of 480 Mbit/s
perhaps we should start calling them other terms
720p = medium definition, or lesser HD, or inferior HD, others?
1080p = high definition, or greater HD, or superior HD, true HD, enhanced HD, others?

Or maybe we should just keep calling them 720p and 1080p...

 

[cthellis42]

Marketing will want to create buzzwords at SOME point... Might as well get it out of the way before some nimrod calls it "Super HD 2 Turbo: Championship Edition."

 

[Moloch]

from wiki

personally i believe lumping 720p + 1080p both under hdtv is confusing ( i can see why 720p set makers do it though ) similar confusion exists with usb
Full Speed USB rate of 12 Mbit/s
Hi-Speed USB rate of 480 Mbit/s
perhaps we should start calling them other terms
720p = medium definition, or lesser HD, or inferior HD, others?
1080p = high definition, or greater HD, or superior HD, true HD, enhanced HD, others?

1080P dvd/broadcast= next generation HD
It's not confusing to me at all btw.
on the topic of 1080i/p and 720P I suggest all you guys read this article that talks about viewing distance from your set in order to resolve the full resolution.
Might surprise you.
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=5&article_id=1137
And here's a viewing distance calculator- put in your set size and distance and it it tell you the max distance you should sit, sitting in front of it your eyes will be able to resolve more detail than it's recieving (from set) so the set will start to look blurry and sitting further away you won't be able to resolve of the detail.
http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html

 

[kyleb]

perhaps we should start calling them other terms
720p = medium definition, or lesser HD, or inferior HD, others?

We should understand that HD displays are defined as having a minimum native resolution of the display or display engine being 720 physical lines in wide aspect ratio, and the fact that there are displays which exceed that minimum does nothing to change the definition.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

720p = medium definition, or lesser HD, or inferior HD, others?
1080p = high definition, or greater HD, or superior HD, true HD, enhanced HD, others?

You're forgetting your basic Sesame Street training.

High Definiton = 720p
Higher Definiton = 1080p
Highest Definition = 2000p

 

[Megadrive1988]

Ultra High Definition = 4,320p

^__^

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Any likelihood we'll be going beyond 4000x2000 for displays?

We can also go the PCs CGA > EGA > VGA route

SD = Standard Definition
HD = High Definition
XD = eXtended Definition
SXD = Super eXtended Definition
UD = Ultimate Definiton
SUD = Super Ultimate Definition
EUD = Enhanced Ultimate Definition
ad infinitum

 

[ChryZ]

5k ... today

 

[Shifty Geezer]

that 5k resolution is 2000p, only with extra width. The single figure resolution is invariably for number of vertical lines. Also, for cinema maybe higher resoltuions will one day appear. But in almost all homes 1080p is the limit of size versus resolving power of the viewers. If there is another definition increase it'll likely only be one more resolution upgrade from 1080p. By the time you have a 40" 4000x2000 TV, you probably won't physically be able to see any difference between that and a 40" 1080p set, and certainly an 8000x4000 40" display will improve nothing over the lower resolution 2000p. I'd say we'll only get one more resolution before framerates become key, XD or Ultimate HD or whatever PR twist they give it, and then maybe some totally new tech that doesn't worry about being tied to a High Definition type name. Thus the HD name fiasco can be solved with HD > EHD > XD as probably the preferred choies (High def, Enhanced High def, Extreme Def).

It's also worth pointing out that when you say 'today' you mean in prototype form, and the actual rollout is suggested in the article at 5-10 years

 

[kyleb]

A 3840x 2160 prototype on display.

But regardless, 720p hits the limit for many normal setups along the lines of 6' from a 30" display or 10' from a 50" display. Hence, all the "if it's not 1080p it's not really HD" arguments are down-right absurd in light of many practical situations.