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Sigfried1977
Legend
I really enjoyed the movie until the obligatory showdown kicked in. I loved Kevin Kostner and Diane Laine in that movie, and Russel Crow was absolutely fantastic. Unfortunately the finale was just lots of detached, dull, repetitive and rather cynical mass mayhem. If you've seen one crumbling skyscraper, you've seen them all, and there are an awful lot of crumbling skyscrapers in that film. It's also about time Hans Zimmer stopped with his variations on the Batman soundtrack.
Agreed, especially about Russell Crowe (but I've always liked him). By the way, I was struck by how much older Kevin Costner looked.
Watched Pacific Rim. I had very low expectations and even then i didn't come out of the cinema particularly happy.
Even going in 'thinking i was a 12 year old' didn't make me look past the complete lack of soul, class and drama in the movie. The script, the acting, everything apart from the special effects was just too poor in my opinion.
I really, really wanted to love it but i really, really did not.
Oh well. At least the guy was H O T
Even going in 'thinking i was a 12 year old' didn't make me look past the complete lack of soul, class and drama in the movie. The script, the acting, everything apart from the special effects was just too poor in my opinion.
I really, really wanted to love it but i really, really did not.
Oh well. At least the guy was H O T
Sigfried1977
Legend
Diane Laine's age struck me a lot more. Pretty much the last time I've seen her in a movie before Man of Steel was in that terrible Judge Dredd movie.
Don't forget that she was aged some 20 years between the flashback scenes and the current time.
This is what she actually looks like based on a quick search:
http://www.hawtcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/DIANE-LANE-at-24th-Annual-Palm-Springs-International-Film-Festival-5.jpg
This is what she actually looks like based on a quick search:
http://www.hawtcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/DIANE-LANE-at-24th-Annual-Palm-Springs-International-Film-Festival-5.jpg
Wow everyone else has said this film is 9+/10
I guess you were thinking hell i could do a better rim job (i'm so sorry
)ps: its the dude from sons of anarchy
You're now dead to me. DEAD!, I say!!
The old Toho films really didn't have better pretexts for the monsters either, and if Pacific Rim is anything it's an ode to those movies. Sure the script could've been better, and I would've liked to have seen more of the preceding years of kaiju-jaeger battles, but my only real nitpick was Gipsy Danger surviving that fall. That was silly. But I think you're just disappointed that the jaegers weren't swinging cods proportional to their 250' height.
I loved everything Del Toro did before, which contributed to the slight disappointment.
And i absolutely LOVE Evangelion. Part of my disappointment was surely because Pacific Rim is a very poor tribute/copy of Eva. Without the drama. Or the philosophical questions. Or the epicness. Or anything other than big robots and monsters. Monsters which were nowhere near as interesting as in Eva.
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Needless to say, my friends and I renamed the film "Passivic Rimming"
Sigfried1977
Legend
I haven't seen it myself yet. It premiers today in a couple of hours where I live (and I'm giddy as hell because I have tickets), but I cannot help but agree with London on a couple of points in general. Why should these movies with budgets in the hundreds of millions not get called out for their generally awful scripts? (and no, saying their micro budget inspirators weren't any better is not an excuse at all.) Decent writing can elevate any movie, and in an age where films like Inception and The Avengers make billions at the box office, the whole notion that summer movies must never challenge and/or generally need to be utterly stupid for the sake of reaching a lowest common denominator audience is just woefully outdated. You can have your cake and eat it too. Heck, Guillermo did it himself -to a certain degree at least- with his Hellboy movies.
While I liked The Avengers I never felt that it challenged me and it did reach the lowest common denomitator.
Each time someone mentions Evangelion's incredible plot, or deep philosophical meaning, i wonder if i watched the same anime. I found it mediocre, using esoteric symbols for no particular reason with a plot going nowhere. In my opinion, it's just another case of "i'm writing a story without an end game" syndrom from the writers.
As for Pacific Rim, I found it quite nice, with a little something missing though. However, I do mourn "At the Mountains of Madness" sacrificed at Hollywood's altar to make place for Prometheus and Pacific Rim.
As for Pacific Rim, I found it quite nice, with a little something missing though. However, I do mourn "At the Mountains of Madness" sacrificed at Hollywood's altar to make place for Prometheus and Pacific Rim.
I think the most glaring difference is that I 'felt' much, much more from Eva's animated characters, their issues, insecurities and dramas than I did for Pacific Rim's sorry caricatures.
As I did for the ending - the 'real' ending of Eva is a gazillion times more epic than Rim's. As messed up as it was.
Rurouni
Veteran
For me, those philosophical, symbolism, etc really add depth to the Evangelion universe. You take that and it simply becomes something like Pacific Rim. The beauty of Evangelion is that you don't even need to understand the symbolism stuff to enjoy it, unlike RahXephon (which is something that is recommended by a lot of people to watch if you like Evangelion) which those philosophical and symbolism stuff felt a bit too much... it's like they added those stuff to be cool or something (the more confusing the cooler it gets paradigm).
Anyway, I really enjoy Pacific Rim. I think the story is good enough. I expect something worse because everybody that didn't like it criticized the story, the acting, of both. What I found is that the story is within my expectation for this kind of movie. For me, the story is comparable to those Marvel movies (and MoS). I expect the star is the battle between Jaeger vs Kaijuu and I get that (+ Rinko Kikuchi )
Anyway, I really enjoy Pacific Rim. I think the story is good enough. I expect something worse because everybody that didn't like it criticized the story, the acting, of both. What I found is that the story is within my expectation for this kind of movie. For me, the story is comparable to those Marvel movies (and MoS). I expect the star is the battle between Jaeger vs Kaijuu and I get that (+ Rinko Kikuchi
)I don't think there's anything wrong with Pacific Rim's story, characters, or acting. They're just really simple, like it's a live action cartoon; but they're done well enough. There are no glaring mistakes and universally hated characters and the plot makes enough sense.
Sure, Avengers is more complex in both the story and the character interactions and has a few plot twists (nothing to write home about though) - but then again it's probably the all-around best summer blockbuster in years.
On the other hand, Transformers has a more complex plot - but in practice it's just more convoluted and even more illogical, and the characters are all incredibly annoying, all the leads and the supporting cast and even some of the robots. The remaining robots are basically without any character at all, or maybe just paper thin - but with Prime the re-use of the cartoon's voice actor makes it less obvious to longtime fans (as they automatically identify the movie incarnation with the one they have fond memories of).
Pacific Rim is in my opinion a kid's adventure movie first, that was Del Toro's intention. For some reason the marketing fails to convey this right.
For us adults there's also a few layers of some extra content to find, but one needs to read the prequel comic and look for small signs in the movie to get there.
Sure, Avengers is more complex in both the story and the character interactions and has a few plot twists (nothing to write home about though) - but then again it's probably the all-around best summer blockbuster in years.
On the other hand, Transformers has a more complex plot - but in practice it's just more convoluted and even more illogical, and the characters are all incredibly annoying, all the leads and the supporting cast and even some of the robots. The remaining robots are basically without any character at all, or maybe just paper thin - but with Prime the re-use of the cartoon's voice actor makes it less obvious to longtime fans (as they automatically identify the movie incarnation with the one they have fond memories of).
Pacific Rim is in my opinion a kid's adventure movie first, that was Del Toro's intention. For some reason the marketing fails to convey this right.
For us adults there's also a few layers of some extra content to find, but one needs to read the prequel comic and look for small signs in the movie to get there.
I agree, the movie has a Sunday morning cartoon show vibe to it (the ones from 80s and 90s).
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING awful about Pacific Rim's script or acting or plot. The script and acting were serviceable and never ever hindered the movie imo, it's great to have characters without long arcs or in search of a deeper philosophical reason in this particular movie because it makes way for what the movie is about ie. plain Mech vs Kaiju fights. This movie was NEVER going to be about anything other than the fights and set pieces. It's great to have this than having a bloated and convoluted but ultimately pointless lore.
The movie has LOT of soul, it's very light hearted and not bleak/gritty like other action movies. It's crafted with a lot of love and done so masterfully.
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING awful about Pacific Rim's script or acting or plot. The script and acting were serviceable and never ever hindered the movie imo, it's great to have characters without long arcs or in search of a deeper philosophical reason in this particular movie because it makes way for what the movie is about ie. plain Mech vs Kaiju fights. This movie was NEVER going to be about anything other than the fights and set pieces. It's great to have this than having a bloated and convoluted but ultimately pointless lore.
The movie has LOT of soul, it's very light hearted and not bleak/gritty like other action movies. It's crafted with a lot of love and done so masterfully.
After seeing a little of the pre-release hype my reaction to Pacific Rim while watching it was "this is cheesier than I expected", but ultimately it was still great fun. So I say, expect the cheese and have fun with it.
This should be the motto for this thread. Especially regarding movies that are based on comics/graphic novels/sci-fi/summer blockbusters, etc.
This is why geeks can't have nice things, some of you overly vocal bastards can't ever be happy. Pacific Rim has a giant robot using an oil tanker as a club on a giant monster's head! What more do you need?
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