Thanks so its like having two machines in one really if you use your Xbox one HDMI in in this way .
Because of the quick switching between both ......a good selling point as well in my opinion .....well at least for the first year or so .
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Thanks so its like having two machines in one really if you use your Xbox one HDMI in in this way .
Because of the quick switching between both ......a good selling point as well in my opinion .....well at least for the first year or so .
What's the advantage of running your XB360 into your XB1 over plugging it into a second port on the TV/Amp?
So you can have a
Xbox one .....PS 4 combination ....snap the PS 4 into a corner .
The same with a PS 3 .....Xbox 360 or a wii u .
Pity there not more HDMI in sockets in theory you could have Xbox one controlling two or three over gaming machines each with there individual tiles on the dash board making the ultimate home entertainment system for games
Of coarse you would need a big coffee table for all the controllers for each tile well until some one makes a universal controller like a universal remote for all your electronics under your telly
Your Xbox or what ever gaming machine you have hook up would have its own tile running on your dash board or snapped into a corner .....switching between game machines would be the same as switching between games on your dash board
Xbox one .....PS 4 combination ....snap the PS 4 into a corner .
The same with a PS 3 .....Xbox 360 or a wii u .
Pity there not more HDMI in sockets in theory you could have Xbox one controlling two or three over gaming machines each with there individual tiles on the dash board making the ultimate home entertainment system for games
Of coarse you would need a big coffee table for all the controllers for each tile well until some one makes a universal controller like a universal remote for all your electronics under your telly
Your Xbox or what ever gaming machine you have hook up would have its own tile running on your dash board or snapped into a corner .....switching between game machines would be the same as switching between games on your dash board
I just created a Reddit account to ask MajorNelson about 360/XB1 communication options....
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comme..._responds_to_some_tough_drm_and_xbone/cajyp3a
If I get enough upvotes, maybe he'll answer them? Starting to understand now why Reddit is so appealing. LOL
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comme..._responds_to_some_tough_drm_and_xbone/cajyp3a
If I get enough upvotes, maybe he'll answer them? Starting to understand now why Reddit is so appealing. LOL
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If it's plugged into to your TV/amp I won't be able to see & hear all the notices for game invites, friend invites, voice/text messages unless I'm actually switched to the corresponding input. With it connected to XB1 I never have to change inputs. I can keep the HDMI In device snapped to the side of the screen & can get both. Shifty it seems you really are having an issue understanding this.
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If there's some way of controlling it from X1 that'd be something. I suppose another is having all of the extra stuff at the ready while you're playing a 360 game. Access to a decent browser and other X1 apps on the screen you're using.
Okay.
Asking questions constitutes difficulty understanding, huh? Guess that means universities and centres of research are full of thickos.
I'm not sure how you're going to get both if it is HDMI passthrough.
You either snap your 360 to the side or you just run 360 fullscreen. For the former you will see both at the same time. For the latter your XB1 notices pop-up overlaid your 360 screen.
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You'd get the XBone UI, but with the Xbox 360 feed in place of TV. All the X1 notifications and apps/games would be available while you're playing 360.
What you're both talking about sounds like it requires video capture and processing to me. Both of which HDMI passthrough does not do as far as I know.
I watched through the interface demo on May 21 and no I don't see any UI on the screen when it's doing HDMI passthrough. The ESPN part could be streamed through internet so it's probably not done through HDMI passthrough.
Unless there's another video I'm missing, please show me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lMhjM9BK7M&t=5m10s
I don't think there has been any dispute that they do overlay, not just passthrough.
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I don't think there has been any dispute that they do overlay, not just passthrough.
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I think you're missing a fundamental aspect of the system that has been discussed to death already. So either you haven't been following the tech threads or you're very forgetful. It's the display planes. The Xbox One has 3 of them. The HDMI-In signal will be on one of the Display Planes. At least one is available for the OS to do whatever it wants with it. The display planes will then be combined on scan-out to output the final signal.
http://www.vgleaks.com/durango-display-planes/
I do not see any display plane reserved for HDMI passthrough described here.
And yes I do want to see it in action before I confirm it really works. It really does sound sketchy to me, and during the reveal there was no sign of it working in the way you've described.
Edit: add on to that, if it's running through the GPU and has a buffer of some sort, it can probably DVR it. The fact that the Xbone doesn't DVR the input but instead DVRs games probably points to this being not possible?
I've worked with AV equipment that does HDMI pass through, and others that do processing.
In order to overlay stuff like UI, my experience is that you need to have the system "see" the frames first, and that requires some sort of HDMI capture, which is apparently not existent on the Xbox One.
HDMI pass through, is what it is. It passes through. The machine just relays the signal through as if the device wasn't there.
Why would they call it "pass through" when they meddle with it? Certainly it deserves another name.
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I tried to find videos of overlays with video being played, but I suspect folks would merely wave it off as being "Oh, that's likely ESPN Network Streaming" or "Oh, that's Netflix Network Streaming" or some other "Oh, that's not HDMMI input".
They're able to do HDMI video scaling when they have it running in non-fullscreen mode, so why wouldn't they be able to do overlays? Or are you trying to say everything they showed operating in non-fullscreen mode was just some sort of network streaming? I just don't have any reason to doubt that it would work the way we envision it would.
They're able to do HDMI video scaling when they have it running in non-fullscreen mode, so why wouldn't they be able to do overlays? Or are you trying to say everything they showed operating in non-fullscreen mode was just some sort of network streaming? I just don't have any reason to doubt that it would work the way we envision it would.
Why wouldn't it work if the Xbox one can lay a game invite ....friend notifications over a TV feed why could it not over lay the same information over a Xbox 360 game feed or any other game console feed .
And why wouldn't it be able to snap the same feed .....I would imagine it would just view a feed as a feed whether it be a TV signal or another game consoles signal .
And why wouldn't it be able to snap the same feed .....I would imagine it would just view a feed as a feed whether it be a TV signal or another game consoles signal .
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The new "The Guide" for TV content is overlay over live TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bFVptu6QbY&t=14m50s
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