Metal Gear 4 headed for XB360?

I think those numbers for Wii and PS3 are a little suspect, a tad too high. Wii over 2m units already?

 

Whats so surprising about the Wii numbers? 2 million is lower than I thought to speak the truth!

 

Acert's post makes me wonder if PS3 will ever get on its feet. X360's software lineup and sales make me think otherwise.

 

I thought DC sold only 10 million units at the end of its life. Thus how can it be twice the installed X360 numbers .... unless I'm confused.

 

What do you mean "on it's feet"?

 

It just feels like Sony is losing their balance. I love PS products and I've always chosen it as my main platform. I have a PS3 (love Resistance) but I think 360 has an edge right now in terms of software & services.

I'd just hate to see 3rd party start migrating elsewhere because of the PS3 attachment rate in software & hardware.

 

I think Sony will definitely get "on its feet", the question is just when. Online infrastructure is new to Sony (they seriously should have invested in this more in the later PS2 era) so it will take 2-3 years before it comparable in terms of content, stability, ease of use to a customer. By that time, will Sony have driven down the price enough to reach the critical masses? I am guessing yes but anything can happen.

On software attachment rate, there is another thread where someone pointed out that it's less than 1:1 to hardware. That's gotta be real disheartening to a developer.

 

It really should be before 3 years for thier online to step up to the big leagues. 2007 is a must. All they really need is active downloading, proper invites for all games with online enabled (RR7 NFS PS3), and voice and video chat while in-game.

Those three along with what they already have know for free is great.

 

Haha.

 

Oh I agree, like I said I think Sony can pull it off, just when. The best thing about Live is that you feel connected to the machine and the games. It's really immersive and intuitive.

 

I d like to see the attach rate of other consoles. With bandles not included. You know where I can find them?

I am not trying to prove anything. i am trying to tell someone that its illogical to compare PS3's attachment rate with 360's so soon. 360 was alone for a whole year

So? Why didnt they choose 360 instead? Does that mean Publishers lost confidence over 360 as well? Can you say the same thing about WarDevil becoming a PS3 exclusive? Ofcourse not

You are trrying to make your assumptions seem factual. You know perfectly well that the reasons that DS was chosen may be more and may have nothing to do with the PS3.

Checking the charts DQ8 sold well only in Japan. It did badly in US and other territories

So another possible reason and a more logical one could be due to high costs in general to produce a next gen DQ on 360 or PS3 when SquareEnix is already spending huge budgets to make FF13 on PS3 and knows that possible low DQ8 sales in US and EU may not bring the expected revenues/profits. DS on the other hand is cheaper to make games on and there are more chances it will do better on it.

As for the rest you are making me repeat myself. Sony doesnt need to surpass 360's sales in one year to keep its exclusives. If there is a very significant given market performance in sales per period when supply increases there wont be a problem. Supply shortages wont be a problem forever.

And Wii's performance doesnt affect PS3 or 360. They target different people, they have different perceptions of entertainment, and face totally different costs of development . Dont expect PS3 or 360 exclusives to shift over Wii because it manages to keep high sales. Even if the impossible happens and they do shift to Wii they will be so different there would be no point comparing.

The release of the PS3 in Europe may be more deterministic of the console's course.

Some people even go as far as to pay 1300 Euros in my area for imported PS3's that were placed for display purposes in shops, when 360s are available at around 300-400 euros with games like Gears of War. And what PS3 games were available? COD3??? NFS Carbon???
BLEH!!
I wouldnt have gotten them unless they offered them free

But during March PS3 will have better and more games. Things will be clearer then

What I wanted to point out is that a launch performance doesnt say much. I might have brought up the N64 which sold hundreds of thousands in a week during its launch, PS2's ugly launch games and difficult development or the very good impressions of XBOX's launch games etc.

None of these consoles' launch performance impressions determined their real course.

I am not expecting PS3 to catch up as well as the PS2 did, but I am not expecting it to do badly either. It will lose market share thats for sure due to some problems and shortages and 360 may perform overally better. I didnt deny that possibility.

And ofcourse money talks. But one thing people ignore is that the third party developers make multiplatform games that are already on shelves for people to buy at the same time they are making unreleased exclusives.

If they put all their sources on one console and all they got were costs, risking revenues then I assure you that not 100% surely but 100000000% surely not only MGS4 would have been planned for a 360. But Final Fantasy, Tekken, DMC and God knows what else.
But there arent.

These devs gain revenues and profits from other releases like Ridge Racer, Dead Rising, Pro Evolution Soccer etc at the same time they are experiencing costs on exclusive game development. People shouldnt treat them as exclusive developers because they are not. They still make games on other consoles.
Although there are pressures and difficulties developers arent as pressured and forced as much to cancel PS3 exclusivity as people are trying to make it look like. Otherwise they would have done it already.

 

Although I agree with most of your points I ll add about the attchment rate that the 360 didnt suffer as much as the PS3 is because it had much more units supplied. I also didnt deny that 360's attachment rate is high. But for me its perfectly normal.
There is only a given number of people that can ebay the console.
The more the supply the more people who care about gaming will buy one at its normal price and buy games with it thus higher attach rate
The bigger the shortages the less people who care about gaming can buy the console and the more ebay sellers are relatively to those gamers
Also the 360 was alone for one year, and the first next gen console to be released. All 360 games were "exclusive". PS3 was released with ported games and 2 good exclusive titles. How much difference can it make?

Not much currently.

edit: Btw according to VG charts 360 is around 6.62 million. If we assume there is an underestimation, it should be around 7 million

 

VGCharts data doesn't seem to be any more reliable then Nexgenwars.com... I don't think you should quote it

 

Yeah but that particular figure is closer to the truth than someone saying only 500,000 units were sold worldwide right now.

 

That might be the least of their worries.

 

I think that the issue of hardware differences is a bit underplayed these days. Do we even know that, in its current form, MGS4 could even be done on the 360? It could be less of a "console A is stronger than console B" issue, but just that the engine has been developed with the PS3's unique strenghts in mind....see the "Octo-camo" feature in the game.

 

I don't trust either. I mean, how long since MS has passed six million Xboxes, two and a half months? And VGCharts thinks its 6.6 million by now... And of course Nexgen is probably totally wrong about that 450.000 PS3s too.
And of course both sites' forums are spammed with links and such to the other one. Bleh.

 

Yes i know, NPD tracks this (you need an subscription), Media Create tracks total amount of software sold per console and consoles sale, just a matter of doing some math. And theres been a number of surveys out.

I wont give you an direct link, simply because based on your last post here, it looks like you have an agenda. You called posters here crazy, and denied the fact that the x360 has a crazy high attachment rate, without having any clue about the subject.

It takes you one google to find out if the X360 has a high attachment rate or not, (you dont even have to type in 360 in your google, just type high attachment rate, and the top 500 hits are all about the x360 ), and you would have a gazillion analyst saying "attachment rate is way to high bla bla bla"

And nobody was comparing it to begin with, insulting people for saying that the X360 has a high attachment rate is not however the way to go.

 

Hmm? I have an agenda?? You are going to o far just because I am not 100% agreeing....You are the one with the agenda then. I didnt call anypone crazy. He said he finds the attachment rate crazy and I told him that for him it may be crazy but for me it isnt. Do you read?

Also I dare you to show me one part where I stated the attachment rate isnt high. Exactly. NONE. The only thing I posted is that I dont find it crazy.

You having comprehension problems?

Talk about misinterpretation.

Insult? How did I insult?

Where did you see an insult??
Jesus

You are the one who insulted me by misinterpreting my posts and judging based on your misconception of my posts and your biased critique against me

 

^^ Insulting

^^ So should you

Your post, the same one where you insulted the guy who talked about high attachment rates, you also felt a huge urge to defend the PS.

When you insult somebody, flat out say that "x360 attachment rate is normal" thus, denying facts, without even looking into it, and then go on and make a semi defensive post about the PS3, it certainly looks like you have an agenda. It doesnt matter if i agree with you or not.