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[CaptainHowdy]

I think the ole sales arguments though really have no merit anymore..
by the end of next year I suspect both GC and XBox will have hit the 12-15 million worldwide mark.. if a game company can not be happy with a 12 million userbase, well that is just pathetic..

I think its safe to say there are no losers, every console has pulled off good sales, all three have at least one game that is worth buying the console for (GC=Metroid Prime, Zelda, Mario, Eternal Darkness, RE series... Xbox= Halo, PGR, Mechassault, and if the price someday comes down, I would love to try Steel Batallion(sp?) , I have always hated mech games, but I really got into Mech Assault, it was easy for me to pick up, PS2 I think the GTA games stand out for pretty much anyone)

 

[wazoo]

It is time for GC sales to pick up. remenber that for nintendo, December is the main part of the year.

 

[DVFtaxman]

Teasy - if only one obscure game shop had them in stock early and all the rest got them in on the 30th then I don't see how you could claim that would have too large an effect on sales!......this weeks sales will be the ones that show exactly what a difference this bundle has made......sorry if it sounded like I'm picking on you, but it does seam like you love to bash the Xbox no matter how well it does!

 

[Teasy]

DVFtaxman, I didn't say only one shop had it in stock nor that that would somehow make big sales (although if one small shop could have it in how many others could?). I just corrected you on what store I was in, I wouldn't want to be accused of lying if you find out that GAME didn't have it in early, because I didn't go into GAME. I just thought that if one store had the bundle in then why shouldn't the rest.

BTW, show me where I've bashed XBox in this thread. I already said that XBox sales may still increase next week once everyone knows about the 4 game bundle.

 

[DVFtaxman]

After doing a lot of searching I have found absolutely no evidence that suggests that this pack was available any earlier than the 29th(other than your say so), and in fact EVERY thing I have found would agree with what the M$ rep told me........if it was available any earlier then I'd bet a large amount that someone would have posted as such on www.thedvdforums.com bargain forum as they are nearly always 1st.
Also I would add that Splinter Cell wasn't released until the 29th anyway! I might be pursuaded that some stores would get it in a day or maybe 2 early, but 5 days is pushing it!
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....I'm not really too pro any of the consoles, but I find that all the misinformation and downright BS gets on my tits! It does more harm than good as it keeps gaming in the realm of kiddies tantrums!

 

[Teasy]

DVFtaxman

Ok then, fine, I have no problem with that, it was deffinately out before the 29th in the store I was in though. But I'll agree it wasn't wide spread if you've checked around and found that it wasn't.

So only 2 days out of those 6 included the 4 game pack, if the 4 game pack had been available for the whole 6 days the weekly sales would have been a bit better, for how much better we'll have to wait until next week.

 

[Legion]

they said that the bundles were the cause of this without advertisement?

I don't know what stores think, I only looked around and saw the bundle (I only poped in to play PES2 ).

But as I said there was awareness of this deal quite a while before the 30th, weeks before. Not wide spread with casual gamers of course, so as I said perhaps sales will increase again now that everyone knows about it. For MS's sake they better increase, because if that offer can't shift more XBox's then I really don't know what they'll have to come up with next.

But Teasy this assumption of yours is illogical. Why would the bundle have sold so well without advertisment? Just from the information i would have to say there is more evidence leading to the bundles being released closer to the 29th as TAXMAN said. Just because store A had it out long before (how ever long that arbitrary figure is ) doesn't mean all other stores had it out at the same time.

BTW, show me where I've bashed XBox in this thread. I already said that XBox sales may still increase next week once everyone knows about the 4 game bundle.

I believe he said this:

sorry if it sounded like I'm picking on you, but it does seam like you love to bash the Xbox no matter how well it does!

He believes you are quick to jump on the xbox when you have the chance. You apparently believe that he said you infact did try to jump on the xbox.

Here is why he feels that way:

Actually that's not true, I am suprised, I'm suprised that XBox only sold 20,000 in the week after this new 4 game deal started

I can see why he could take these and several other statements that way. The immediate question i would ask you is now that you realized the bundle didn't affect those sales for the week are they good sales?

 

[DVFtaxman]

If stores had Splinter Cell before its 29th release date then I'm certain that there would have been people gloating about it, but the only people I have seen saying this are those that had internet orders with GAME that received their copy o the 28th.
So if we assume that the extra 10000 sales are due to one days sales with the new 4 game pack then we can look forward to figures in the region of 60 - 70,000 for the current week?(or am I being too optimistic?)
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BTW, bashing isn't just a matter of saying that it cr@p, but can be more subtle and sublime.

 

[Teasy]

But Teasy this assumption of yours is illogical. Why would the bundle have sold so well without advertisment?

Advertising was most deffinately caried about before the actual release date.

As for bashing the XBox, well DVFtaxman can think what he likes, but I did not bash the XBox AFAICS

The immediate question i would ask you is now that you realized the bundle didn't affect those sales for the week are they good sales?

My answer would be even though the bundle was not out for the full 6 days it was out for at least the last 2 days, so it will have effected the sales somewhat. The problem is we don't know how much, so I can't even judge the sales. It could be that quite allot of people were waiting for the deal and jumped on it as soon as they could in the first couple of days, or maybe not, I don't know. What I won't say now though is that they are bad sales, because as I said I can't tell.

So if we assume that the extra 10000 sales are due to one days sales with the new 4 game pack then we can look forward to figures in the region of 60 - 70,000 for the current week?(or am I being too optimistic?)

If the pack was out on the 29th then that's two days of sales (29th and 30th).

Yeah, I think MS would be hoping for 50,000+ sales next week for this bundle to have been a success for them. Wether we'll get them I don't know, when something new is released a big portion of its total sales occur in the first couple of days, but then sometimes something doesn't sell so great in the first few days and goes onto sell great. We'll have to wait and see.

BTW, bashing isn't just a matter of saying that it cr@p, but can be more subtle and sublime.

The problem with that is a subtle bash is easily imagined, as well as easily accidental.

BTW I'm glad to see that you think my posts are sublime

 

[DVFtaxman]

......Sublime isn't necessarily a good thing! 8) misguided youth, you'll be advocating the supremacy of PVR Kyro2 over the GF2gts next!
I think that M$ will be over the moon if they manage 50,000 sales in a week! That'd be one hell of a rise to get from a pack in!

 

[CaptainHowdy]

......Sublime isn't necessarily a good thing! 8) misguided youth, you'll be advocating the supremacy of PVR Kyro2 over the GF2gts next!
I think that M$ will be over the moon if they manage 50,000 sales in a week! That'd be one hell of a rise to get from a pack in!

MS are not the ones who have to be happy with the sales, the third parties are, if the packages of free games keep third party games from selling well, they will pull support, and thats pretty much the end of that.

 

[Geeforcer]

Third parties have better chance of selling Xbox games to someone who bought Xbox bundle then to someone who hasn't bought an Xbox.

 

[Teasy]

......Sublime isn't necessarily a good thing! misguided youth

According to the dictionary your wrong, but don't let that discourage you Why don't you tell me exactly what you meant by sublime.

BTW, your the mis-guided youth on this forum boy, 1110 posts to 13

you'll be advocating the supremacy of PVR Kyro2 over the GF2gts next!

That's an extremely strange and out of place comment, but yeah it is superior overall AFAICS.

I think that M$ will be over the moon if they manage 50,000 sales in a week! That'd be one hell of a rise to get from a pack in!

Don't exagerate, that's to be expected. With a deal like this you'd expect massive sales in the first week of release. Because first week sales are usually as high as the sales will get from the offer, after that the sales will drop and level out, its called a sales spike.

 

[DVFtaxman]

hehehe, I think you were expecting me to be slating you!

By sublime I meant that your replies were well put together and obviously written with some thought, literacy and on the odd occassion a tad of eloquence. However, that doesn't exactly mean that they're correct, although you do quite often bring salient points that have often been overlooked by others............remember that there'd be no discussion or debate if there weren't 2 sides to every arguement!

On the subject of posting scores, I'd ask why that matters? I've been coming here for about 3years and have posted under several pseudonyms....unfortunately changing emails and a forgetful mind has given me cause to reregister on several occassions!
My reference to Kyro2 was a little joke as I recollect you as being one of PVR's stronger advocates on these forums! ....but that's getting off the point.

 

[Teasy]

By sublime I meant that your replies were well put together and obviously written with some thought, literacy and on the odd occassion a tad of eloquence. However, that doesn't exactly mean that they're correct

Ok, for the record I didn't think that you meant I was correct when you said sublime.

On the subject of posting scores, I'd ask why that matters?

I was making a subtle point, mostly in jest, in reply to you mentioning my age. I was just saying that age in real life is very much like number of posts on this forum in that they're both unimportant when compared to knowledge and maturity. Although I suppose its not possible to re-incarnate yourself in real life like you can on a forum so its not quite the same .. well unless your a Hindu or a Buddhist or course

 

[CaptainHowdy]

good lord, get a room you two..

 

[Teasy]

good lord, get a room you two..

I wouldn't expect you to understand a civilised discussion, god knows you've never had one

 

[DVFtaxman]

hehehe, it appears that neither of us are much cop at comedy! .....but howdy pulls it off so well!

 

[Teasy]

hehehe, it appears that neither of us are much cop at comedy! .....but howdy pulls it off so well!

Hehe

Hmm, lets see.

Q: What's the similarity between women and floor tiles?

A: Lay them right the first time and you can walk all over them for the rest of your life.

Any good?

DISCLAIMER:

This joke in no way represents the opinion of the person typing it

 

[Teasy]

Or what about this:

A guy goes to see his doctor:

Doctor: What seems to be the problem?

Patient: I have a steering wheel down my pants

Doctor: How did that happen?

Patient: I don't know but its driving me nuts

No?.. ah well I'll stop now.