Killzone: first pics
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megateto said:PC-Engine said:Actually all they needed to do was globally desaturate the colors and change single character model of the one cloned soldier
I doubt it's coincedence or whatever you want to call it.
Game making never stops amazing me if things are really that simple..And I talked about convergence, not coincidence.
It's all about setting: it's not the same to place your game in a near future (no laser beams) than in a really futuristic place, Halo style.
I did say whatever you want to call it...
The color palette is definitely borrowed from HL2. The soldiers with those masks too. The setting of course is a little different from HL2 ie green vegetation and natural rock formations etc.
Phil said:
Well, that's the crux of the problem, textures create the graphics. It's more than possible to get away with having less than stellar textures if thats your visual style, ie: ZoE2, MGS2/3. But if you're striving for photorealistic rendering (which KZ clearly is), and your textures are blurry, then it really stands out.
An exaggerated but good example is Ghost Recon; stretched and washed out textures slapped over blocky low poly count environments.
This isn't a "PS2 can't do teh textring~@" argument, its criticizing the 5 released pictures of KZ, cause along with the fog/draw distance, textures are clearly its weak point.
I wouldn't care so much if this game wasn't so hyped
ChryZ said:
How long do you think it takes to change one single character model that's cloned a thousand times? This isn't FFTSW character models
There's a term called place holders...
Also do you really think every single piece of artwork needs to have it's textures changed so that the colors are desaturated?
zurich said:
I don't know what you're on about, but the visual style this game is heading for, already looks miles better than any HALO game. Maybe I should revive those Halo 2 threads and start picking about the blur spread out across the entire scenary. And that's not even getting down to its horrendous framerate.
A similar colour palette makes this a HL2 clone? A war torn, slightly futuristic city has looked like that in many comics, movies, illustrations... before Half Life 2. It is not so original that it would be a huge coincidence that another developer would make a game that would have somewhat similar art.
It's more because the current platforms make it possible to make realistic looking levels, so the environments in different games look alike, i.e. realistic (lighting, colours... not so much architecture).
The soldier mask design wasn't so unique even when it was seen in Half Life 2.
I can remember a similar design in movie Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, and I'm sure more examples would be easy to find.
It's more because the current platforms make it possible to make realistic looking levels, so the environments in different games look alike, i.e. realistic (lighting, colours... not so much architecture).
The soldier mask design wasn't so unique even when it was seen in Half Life 2.
I can remember a similar design in movie Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, and I'm sure more examples would be easy to find.
PC-Engine said:How long do you think it takes to change one single character model that's cloned a thousand times? This isn't FFTSW character models
Also do you really think every single piece of artwork needs to have it's textures changed so that the colors are desaturated?
Heh, PC-Engine logic once again.
Just between us bud, did Valve put any copyright on their set of colours that get that realistic look? Oh yeah I forgot, all the Sony developers are too stupid to figure out themselves what makes a realistic appearance. "hey lets borrow HL2's color sheme". "Or no wait, lets get Konami's one for MGS." "Yeay lets download them from their website".
Phil said:PC-Engine said:How long do you think it takes to change one single character model that's cloned a thousand times? This isn't FFTSW character models
Also do you really think every single piece of artwork needs to have it's textures changed so that the colors are desaturated?
Heh, PC-Engine logic once again.
Just between us bud, did Valve put any copyright on their set of colours that get that realistic look? Oh yeah I forgot, all the developers are too stupid to figure out themselves what makes a realistic appearance. "hey lets borrow HL2's color sheme". "Or no wait, lets get Konami's one for MGS." "Yeay lets download them from their website".
MGS had what...one color...oh wait make that two
Oh btw I hope you realize color palette alone doesn't make realistic graphics
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The fog is supposed to be there, that level is set in a Amazon like jungle enviroment, like the level in Halo, if you wanna see what the engine can do you'll have to wait until Sony released the shots with the huge glass skyscrapers the draw distance is jaw dropping. Expect a video soon when Guerrilla's website goes live
the draw distance is jaw dropping. Expect a video soon when Guerrilla's website goes live You've never seen stuff like JinRoh have you.
And by this logic color palette in HL2 is borrowed from MGS1 which consequently borrows it from whatever militaristic looking thing came before it etc.Anyway, you're absolutely right it's not a coincidence. All FPS games look the same by default, this is just another example of that fact
PC-Engine said:
ThenI'm sure people at Lost Boys must be banging their heads for not releasing screens before..HL2 stole our wallet in front of our noses...
But if place holders do really work as you say (I'm not worried about admitting that I don't have a clue), then you might have a point.. But wouldn't be the case that if you are making something and then notice somebody is going the same route, you would try to change it in order to not look as a mere clone?
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