The eDRAM should only appear on the K models, which come at a premium already; Intel have previously talked about possibly expanding the eDRAM onto other models.Yes, with my little theory it would be bandwith starved. Official DDR3 support would have to be bumped to 2133 max instead of only 1600.
I'm waiting for being proven hilariously wrong, it would be pretty amazing to see that eDRAM on those top gamer parts. But that would have a high cost.
I don't think it's going to release at the same time as Haswell-E.This is awesome news but once again we are stuck with a choice from Intel which results in a compromise whichever route you take. This should release around the same timeframe as Haswell-E so do you go for an 8 Core Haswell-E with no igp and no L4 or do you go for a likely much faster clocked 4 core Broadwell with Iris Pro?
I image the Broadwell will be the better bet for gaming but I still want my 8 cores!!
20% isn't much for a node shrink, i hope those architecture optimizations are significant as they need ~50% perf increase IMO.Broadwell graphics is based on 8th generation architecture. One of the most important improvements in Broadwell GPUs is 20% larger number of execution units, that is 24 EUs for GT2 chips, and 48 EUs in chips with GT3 graphics. On top of that, the architecture was optimized for greater performance.
Curiously, is there any hardware that supports full HEVC de/encoding yet? I was under the impression that everyone uses a hybrid (including Maxwell) as the spec is fairly new as hardware goes.So, will it support hardware H265/HEVC decoding or not?
... what??And if not, is this going to be a shit CPU for 4k or what?
This is gonna be a BIG disappointment as a CPU I think.
Haswell was too heavy on EUs (10:1 vs. other folks with 8:1 or less ratios of compute:sampler) which Broadwell will rebalance to a more reasonable level. Haswell was rarely ever bottlenecked on ALU.20% isn't much for a node shrink, i hope those architecture optimizations are significant as they need ~50% perf increase IMO.
Curiously, is there any hardware that supports full HEVC encoding yet? I was under the impression that everyone uses a hybrid (including Maxwell) as the spec is fairly new as hardware goes.
... what??
What exactly are you complaining about UniversalTruth?
I don't understand.
Exclusive: Intel CEO promises Broadwell PCs on shelves for holidays
Intel Corp's next-generation Broadwell processors will ship in time to be used in personal computers sold during the holiday season but probably won't be available for back-to-school shopping, Chief Executive Brian Krzanich said.
Please release Broadwell NUC's soon, the Haswell/Baytrail ones are rather mediocre.
Huh? An i3-4130 will "murder" a 15W i5-4350U in performance? I doubt the difference would be substantial at all (they have the same peak turbo clocks, or base clock for the i3) even assuming the i3 wins with the extra power budget. Certainly nothing that I'd define as "murder"It will murder the i5 NUC performance wise, quite possibly be faster than a Broadwell NUC.
Agreed, but this has always been a problem. I used to really hate this but then I started to realize that folks choose a form factor first, and then look at specs rather than the other way around. Thus ultimately if they are fixated on getting a laptop, they're not comparing to any other form factor performance anyways so it's not as much of a practical issue as I once thought.they often stop at "Core i5" or "Core i7" and think that computer (most often a laptop) is the about the same beast as on full blown desktops.