Inquirer spreading R420 info
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Luminescent
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What source do they derive the 96-bit precision information from?The Inquirer said:
Edit: Let me clarify that 96-bit = 24-bit per RGBA component
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Joe DeFuria
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FP24 = "96 bit" precision.
The question is whether ATI will slap a dustbuster on the XT version to make the clocks so high, or have they refined the process so dramatically that they can clock up to up to 1/3 more comparing to Nvidia as it seems to be the case.
If so that will be jaw dropping performance, even more so than NV40.
That would leave the XT version @ least with 500mhz clocks and a bit more bandwidth to boot.
Somehow it seems to good to be true 8)
But if true NV40 would have to be a lot more efficient to match that - which it doesn't appear to be.
I don't think we ever had so much power in hardware vs the current games crop and current top end CPU's as we have now.
If so that will be jaw dropping performance, even more so than NV40.
That would leave the XT version @ least with 500mhz clocks and a bit more bandwidth to boot.
Somehow it seems to good to be true 8)
But if true NV40 would have to be a lot more efficient to match that - which it doesn't appear to be.
I don't think we ever had so much power in hardware vs the current games crop and current top end CPU's as we have now.
I read in an interview with Dave Orton at somewehere like driverheavan or some such, that their next graphics part (ie. R420) would have full support for FP32.
So, dunno what BS the Inqwell is spreading now.
Also, i thought that the Pro would have 1000Mhz memory clock...
Depending on how these compare to the 6800 I may be getting the Pro. Seeing as how the NV40 is about the same gfx quality as the 9800, I hope ATi is able to pull it up a notch with the newer cards, and if that turns out to be the case, then it's definately R420 for me.
So, dunno what BS the Inqwell is spreading now.
Also, i thought that the Pro would have 1000Mhz memory clock...
Depending on how these compare to the 6800 I may be getting the Pro. Seeing as how the NV40 is about the same gfx quality as the 9800, I hope ATi is able to pull it up a notch with the newer cards, and if that turns out to be the case, then it's definately R420 for me.
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Hmmm, sounds slow to me?
Well, I hope that's not the case but it does fit in with my own speculations from past ATI observations. Not withstanding the fact the 420s architecture could be much more efficient than NV40 I had hoped ATI where going to use the additional Mhz to push themselves further infront of Nvidia on speed and if all my Christmas's came at once IQ too. Unfortunately I think it looks like a 475mhz speed for the Pro won't be that much faster than the NV40 Non ultra (assuming Nvidia can also push the NV40 with 12 pipes a little higher than 400Mhz)
It also doesn't bode well for the supposedly 600Mhz XT version. I don't think ATI will have a 125Mhz increase along with 4 pipes. 100 Mhz perhaps but even then it's hard to imagine! It's simply too big a drop for an almost identical core. Why have the Pro 125Mhz lower than it could achieve and use 4 less pipes? I know HS etc come into play a little with cost but not to that extent that you'd allow your competitor to have similiar performance. From that I'd guess the XT may hit 500Mhz and at an absolute push 550Mhz. I don't have any proof of this of course but having seen just how conservative ATI are with clock speeds and power consumptions I don't see the trend changing anytime soon
Decisions have obviosuly been made and where as Nvidia said, what the hell, twin Molex, high power PSU I believe ATI will opt for more conservative power requirements and sacrifice the extra Mhz/performance. It helps a little in marketing I suppose and OEMs may feel more secure about it in a system but for the prestige of performance leader I think the more aggressive approach will win.
In a nutshell,
1) I think ATI will now be very evenly matched in performance compared with Nvidia.
2) ATI will still retain a now very slight IQ advantage.
3) ATI will loose in the features department.
4) ATI will be ahead in the low power consumption department.
5) Overall most sites will hand this round to the NV40 family due to it's features and comparable performance/IQ!
All in all, both companies will be so evenly matched neither will be able to declare all out victory.
*Sighs, why oh why won't ATI unleash a genuine monster!
Well, I hope that's not the case but it does fit in with my own speculations from past ATI observations. Not withstanding the fact the 420s architecture could be much more efficient than NV40 I had hoped ATI where going to use the additional Mhz to push themselves further infront of Nvidia on speed and if all my Christmas's came at once IQ too. Unfortunately I think it looks like a 475mhz speed for the Pro won't be that much faster than the NV40 Non ultra (assuming Nvidia can also push the NV40 with 12 pipes a little higher than 400Mhz)
It also doesn't bode well for the supposedly 600Mhz XT version. I don't think ATI will have a 125Mhz increase along with 4 pipes. 100 Mhz perhaps but even then it's hard to imagine! It's simply too big a drop for an almost identical core. Why have the Pro 125Mhz lower than it could achieve and use 4 less pipes? I know HS etc come into play a little with cost but not to that extent that you'd allow your competitor to have similiar performance. From that I'd guess the XT may hit 500Mhz and at an absolute push 550Mhz. I don't have any proof of this of course but having seen just how conservative ATI are with clock speeds and power consumptions I don't see the trend changing anytime soon
Decisions have obviosuly been made and where as Nvidia said, what the hell, twin Molex, high power PSU I believe ATI will opt for more conservative power requirements and sacrifice the extra Mhz/performance. It helps a little in marketing I suppose and OEMs may feel more secure about it in a system but for the prestige of performance leader I think the more aggressive approach will win.
In a nutshell,
1) I think ATI will now be very evenly matched in performance compared with Nvidia.
2) ATI will still retain a now very slight IQ advantage.
3) ATI will loose in the features department.
4) ATI will be ahead in the low power consumption department.
5) Overall most sites will hand this round to the NV40 family due to it's features and comparable performance/IQ!
All in all, both companies will be so evenly matched neither will be able to declare all out victory.
*Sighs, why oh why won't ATI unleash a genuine monster!