If Xbox 360 loses, "We'll play again." - Bill Gates

If MS wants worldwide hardware penetration, that have to appeal to a worldwide audience, same as any other company. SE and friends are happy to produce Japanese software for Japanese gamers and if others like that, fair enough. They're not trying to attract US and European (and Australian, but not India ) tastes. They don't care too much about those markets, though will release to them if they think they can make money. Sony do care, and haven't released Japan-only software. They've software houses that produce an interesting mix of genres to appeal to all.

If the tastes of one area are burgers and you try to open up a Sushi Bar, don't be surprised if you don't get the customers. If MS only release 'American' games, they're not going to attract gamers with different tastes.

 

It was due to SHORTAGES!!!!!!!!

Don't you guys actually remember this? This was when Sony was trying to squeeze in the slim-line PStwo's. Which Sony has shipped as many worldwide as MS have shipped Xbox's.

 

I don't know why you twisted my post into being a comparison between which has "more" momentum or mindshare.

The simple fact it did outsell PS2 during the holiday season, tells you the strength of the XBOX brandname in the US. Is it equal to PS2? Hell no. But it's extremely strong, and it's something I think people in europe don't realize sometimes, how strong the XBOX brand name has actually become over here.

 

Ahh, maybe because you posted this,

 

I think what Bill wrote earlier proves even more so that it is games that sell consoles. GAMES. GAMES. GAMES.

Said that three times for dramatic effect.

 

Of course Gates and MS has to signal that it's in it for the long-haul.

What do you expect him to say, "If this doesn't win it for us or make a lot of money, we're bailing."?

If he did that, it would undercut the sales of the X360. Some are going to hesitate because there may not be long-term support for the platform. Some would argue for instance that they're bailing on the Xbox, whereas Sony is talking about a 10-year or more cycle for the PS2.

 

try to outpower MS again with an advanced next-gen CELL processor

 

If you think about it just at face-value as you did, then MS won; but Sony was transitioning from the 50K series to the new slim PStwo during those months and there was a pretty nasty shortage due to Sony bleeding down the supply in the channels. For example, C|Net's headline was:

"PlayStation 2 shortage rattles shoppers"​

I don't really consider it a win, not even to speak towards the concept of "momentum," when your competitor is shifting to a vastly higher profit product and selling every unit/sold out of a 4 year old, $150, console which is selling in for $350 on Amazon Marketplace and $750USD equivalent in the UK. (Link)

EDIT: I was just going to post about who was going to be the first to post the quisi-Cell Roadmap, but MD beat me to it.

 

PS3 will not be upgradable into PS4. it is almost impossible in every way, including technically. PS3 will not have the bandwidth or architecture to support PS4 CPU and GPU.

 

This man speaks the truthess.

 

I don't know why he write that either.

 

Ahhhh maybe you should learn how to read?

I said this shows the level of momentum and brand awareness that the XBOX posesses in the NA market. No more, no less, don't blame me if you read more into my words than what I've written.

The mere fact that it even surpassed PS2 is a feat in itself, and should silence once and for all those poster who insist on maintaining the position that XBOX a failiure, far from it.

If someone had've said back in 2001 that 3 years later XBOX would outsell PS2 for the biggest two months of the year in NA they would've been laughed at.

Shortages is a convenient excuse, but there was no real PS2 shortage, if you wanted one you could get one.

I just see people in denial and rationalising, "Oh well that's when Halo came out" or "Oh well PS2 had shortages you see"....whatever....excuses aside this shows that the XBOX brand is a very close 2nd in NA which is much more than most people here give it credit for.

 

For real scooby there was a PS2 shortage then. BUT, at the sametime I agree with you that being MS selling more Xboxes than Sony could PS2s in those two months does mean ALOT!!

Xbox is FAR FAR FAR from a failure. Just don't take those two months to your head and think more of it than it is.

 

Scooby, those 2 months were an anomoly... Why? Cause Halo 2, its release was enough to spur a spike in Xbox sales. After those months though the Halo 2 "halo" effect was over.

It's easy to point out outliers in a statistical sample, but its the overall trends that speak out.

 

Everything is happening to Microsoft SHRINK their market share.

-PS3 is as easy as X360 to program for (while Xbox1 was way ahead of PS2 in this point);
-PS3 is WAY more powerfull than X360 (more than XBOX is more powerfull than PS2);
-PS3 is today more expected and more well known than PS2 in 1999;
- The top3 games from these 18 X360 games do not look or fell any better than 2004 PC games, so gamers could NOT see next gen in these 18 titles... they now KNOW Next Gen is yet to come in 2006.

 

I thought this didn't matter?

Anyway, we dont know that yet.

 

what is going on woth these forums lately,in just one week(i'm wondering if this has to do with 360 launch?) beyond3d forums turned in to other gaming forums which has hundred something obsessive teenager yelling ps3 wil Ownzzz,doWn with TeH ms/sonYY to each other.Fan boyish childish comments,pointless polls&threads everywhere lately?!!! What happened to respectful,intelligent arguments ppl?!?

 

I feel this is a valid point:

microsoft feels it can capture atleast 51% of home (usa) market with 360, and wish to start laying ground for new 3rd gen box. life cycle for xbox is 4 years, may be demand and short life cycles (relative) forces microsoft to make comittments now.

 

- wrong
- not proven
- wrong

 

You are basing this on what information?