How to gain weight: any dietician here?

[zidane1strife]

Hey, there can be hundreds of studies that support evidence for completely opposing sides. I'm not going to go full into it but take my friend's great grandmom. 104 and she still eats like a horse. Granted, she's Italian and cooks all her own food the old fashioned way. I guess she just has good genetics, but her will to live is beyond compare and that most assuredly has something to do with it.

In the future the scientific community will produce products/drugs/whatever to prolong life for a long time. When this will happen is up in argument, but I'm sure it will happen one day.

In most areas yes, but not CR. CR has been tested in thousands of studies in a myriad number of species, throughout the decades, the outcome's the same. The only species were there might still be some doubt humans... have shown the same in minor studies(primate studies are also showing similar effects to those seen in mice, 66% less death in the CR group), so it is soon to be undeniable for this species too. It seems to be a highly conserved survival mechanism that has spread throughout all life.

Furthermore, we've got the studies of centenarians which, IIRC, have lower fasting glucose/insulin, and they've low triglycerides. In addition to that we've got modded organisms that have had their insulin mechanisms messed with, and achieved ridiculous lifespans.

We do not all have supah genes, and even amongst those with supah genes CR increases lifespan EVEN MORE... and lifespan's the peak of the iceberg, the resistance of the organism is increased dramatically, that's resistance to cancer/diabetes/cardiovascular disease and resistance to a wide variety of toxins and oxygen deprivation that is observed. Muscle tissues are preserved significantly better, cognitive abilities are preserved also.

True it is CR mimetics are on the way, resveratrol is amongst the first. But it doesn't hurt to jam the clock earlier.

PS This is something that's generally accepted in the scientific community, heck even Mr. Anti-life kass disses it. For a longer healthier life= bad for some.... go figure.

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Still, you should know that you should move gradually into such a diet, professional help would be good, and that even moderate CR with adequate nutrition yields benefits. I recommend a moderate CR diet with adequate nutrition, and consumption of resveratrol, a CR mimetic(from grapes/wines, though concentration drastically varies, so it's best as supplement. You need to get it from a reliable company.).

 

[Sonic]

CR = caloric reduction correct? Or are we completely discussing differing things?

 

[zidane1strife]

Well, not sure if it's called that too. It's usually called Caloric Restriction. Though, it's not just a reduction in calories, you usually have to change what you eat, since you must get an adequate amount of nutrients from smaller portions of food. Oh, and from what I've heard the benefits are obtained as long as overall calories are reduced, not any particular group(aka calories from fat, protein, or carbohidrates). There was a study were they changed the % of fat, protein, and carbohidrates in, I think, mice and it didn't change the outcome(they still kept, all three to a decent amount, no extremely drastic reduction of any, that is basic requirements were met).

Another method that's supposedly able to achieve similar effects is alternating starvation(aka eat for a day and don't eat for a day, keep alternating). But this second method still has far too little research to be recommended, IMHO.

 

[Sonic]

Who would want to do that anyway? Eat for a day and not eat for a day. That sounds a little too awful for me.

Caloric restriction/reduction is what we're talking about, so glad I have it figured out now. What would you say about eating to maintain your current physique (provided you are happy with that) and doing so to remain healthy and fit.

 

[zidane1strife]

Who would want to do that anyway? Eat for a day and not eat for a day. That sounds a little too awful for me.

Caloric restriction/reduction is what we're talking about, so glad I have it figured out now. What would you say about eating to maintain your current physique (provided you are happy with that) and doing so to remain healthy and fit.

Well, it has many health benefits too, and you achieve the look you want, so I guess it's good too. Personally I like a slightly thin movie teenager kinda look, you know were you have abs, and slightly defined musculature, so for me it's no problem. And as for CR, again, remember this isn't a 100% or no benefits technique, even a moderate 10-20% reduction yields benefits. I"m sure most could keep an adequate physique with such a diet. Though, if you prefer super buff, than that's good too...

Just remember even if you start in your 40s-50s and the like, you still get benefits(provided you get into it gradually, from what I've heard.). So if someday you become less active, and workout less, this would be a good change to your diet. And again, remember no yo-yos(going repeatedly up and down on weight), I've heard those are not good for your health.

PS I didn't tell you the whole story on the alternate starvation, you can EAT TWICE AS MUCH, not twice as much as CR, but IIRC, TWICE AS MUCH AS YOU NORMALLY WOULD IN THE ALTERNATE DAYS. Supposedly , you wouldn't gain weight, but instead slightly lose some. Though, as I've said without further research I would not recommend it. If someone's going to try it, I recommend professional assistance, and going into it gradually, if you absolutely must.

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[Sonic]

I'm not superbuff or anything but in the shapoe I like to be at.

The anternating starvation days sounds extremely unhealthy. Eating twice as much and then nothing the next day would really cause a lot of problems.

 

[thop]

Just eat a lot, it's easy. First time i hear someone wants to know how to gain weight rather than lose it.

 

[zidane1strife]

I'm not superbuff or anything but in the shapoe I like to be at.

The anternating starvation days sounds extremely unhealthy. Eating twice as much and then nothing the next day would really cause a lot of problems.

Well, from what I've heard, others who practice CR, even one's with a decent level of CR, only had to exercise in order to get pro-athlete esque physique, instead of supah thin. Other's just do CR to a point were they can keep the shape they want, even if it's a bit more moderate.

PS To elaborate more on the kind of physical shape I like to have...
http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/art/m/michelan/1sculptu/david/david.jpg
With the abs a little more pronounced

 

[Squeak]

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