How to gain weight: any dietician here?

[Paul]

And how to develop muscles (without going to a Gym)?

You can develop muscle firmness and greater strength through isometrics... But you should really combine weight lifting and iso....

 

[jvd]

Want to gain wait . Eat like a true italian .

Eggs for breakfeast .

For lunch a burger

For dinner a half a pound of pasta with ragu sauce and a steak. Eat untill u feel full but not so much that your going to throw up. You'll notice that every day u can slowly eat more.

But work out or u will become fat like i am

You're kidding, right? Eggs for breakfast, in Italy??? Burger for lunch?????

BTW, I'm 1.72 mt tall and weigh 61 Kg

I think in Italy it's more like pasta for breakfast, lunch, and dinner...

On a more serious note, just eat the sweet stuff (chocolate for instance) and some carbo-h and do some (whatever) sport... the sport part is really important to keep your body healthy while gaining weight ...

ps: i'm 1,70m and weigh about 70kg... but i have to work out in order to keep this figures

Bah it depends on where u go. I replaced fish with burger as here in the states its more expensive to get the fish

Though italy does that cool lets shut down for that meal of pasta at 3 in the afternoon

 

[Druga Runda]

eat and sleep as much as you can, eat fatty foods, sweets, chocholate, cakes in large quantities, have 5 meals a day and you are set, at least 10 pounds per month - and stop exercising.

 

[Paul]

eat and sleep as much as you can, eat fatty foods, sweets, chocholate, cakes in large quantities, have 5 meals a day and you are set, at least 10 pounds per month - and stop exercising.

Yea but then he has poor weight distribution and a soft figure!

But if you want to be like that, Runda's plan sounds fine 8)

 

[Natoma]

eat and sleep as much as you can, eat fatty foods, sweets, chocholate, cakes in large quantities, have 5 meals a day and you are set, at least 10 pounds per month - and stop exercising.

pfft. In August 1998 I gained 55lbs. I was working in San Jose at The Tech Museum for my company on a project we did with AT&T. Was stuck out there for a month, no gym, and nothing to do all day but pig out in a computer backroom while monitoring the exhibits that we put up.

I went from 200 to 255lbs in one month. Took me a year to take it all off again.

 

[Druga Runda]

eat and sleep as much as you can, eat fatty foods, sweets, chocholate, cakes in large quantities, have 5 meals a day and you are set, at least 10 pounds per month - and stop exercising.

pfft. In August 1998 I gained 55lbs. I was working in San Jose at The Tech Museum for my company on a project we did with AT&T. Was stuck out there for a month, no gym, and nothing to do all day but pig out in a computer backroom while monitoring the exhibits that we put up.

I went from 200 to 255lbs in one month. Took me a year to take it all off again.

wow, taking off 55 lbs in a year is a good feat, let alone putting it on in a month.. phew... if I took of 55 lbs, I'd be like new again

 

[Natoma]

I've got pictures

 

[Paul]

eat and sleep as much as you can, eat fatty foods, sweets, chocholate, cakes in large quantities, have 5 meals a day and you are set, at least 10 pounds per month - and stop exercising.

pfft. In August 1998 I gained 55lbs. I was working in San Jose at The Tech Museum for my company on a project we did with AT&T. Was stuck out there for a month, no gym, and nothing to do all day but pig out in a computer backroom while monitoring the exhibits that we put up.

I went from 200 to 255lbs in one month. Took me a year to take it all off again.

wow, taking off 55 lbs in a year is a good feat, let alone putting it on in a month.. phew... if I took of 55 lbs, I'd be like new again

Hah! I dropped 25 pounds in 3 and a half months.

 

[Druga Runda]

eat and sleep as much as you can, eat fatty foods, sweets, chocholate, cakes in large quantities, have 5 meals a day and you are set, at least 10 pounds per month - and stop exercising.

pfft. In August 1998 I gained 55lbs. I was working in San Jose at The Tech Museum for my company on a project we did with AT&T. Was stuck out there for a month, no gym, and nothing to do all day but pig out in a computer backroom while monitoring the exhibits that we put up.

I went from 200 to 255lbs in one month. Took me a year to take it all off again.

wow, taking off 55 lbs in a year is a good feat, let alone putting it on in a month.. phew... if I took of 55 lbs, I'd be like new again

Hah! I dropped 25 pounds in 3 and a half months.

what did you do, stoppe deating or started running 8 hrs a day?

 

[AlNom]

I've lost 55lbs since august 2003 I've cut back on my eating by a lot. I don't exercise very much either. Drinking 4L of ice-cold water a day on average isn't so bad either My diet is high in protein with veggies and some carbs (not much). I try not to eat anything starchy (rice or other). I've only had one fast food meal since too

 

[Paul]

eat and sleep as much as you can, eat fatty foods, sweets, chocholate, cakes in large quantities, have 5 meals a day and you are set, at least 10 pounds per month - and stop exercising.

pfft. In August 1998 I gained 55lbs. I was working in San Jose at The Tech Museum for my company on a project we did with AT&T. Was stuck out there for a month, no gym, and nothing to do all day but pig out in a computer backroom while monitoring the exhibits that we put up.

I went from 200 to 255lbs in one month. Took me a year to take it all off again.

wow, taking off 55 lbs in a year is a good feat, let alone putting it on in a month.. phew... if I took of 55 lbs, I'd be like new again

Hah! I dropped 25 pounds in 3 and a half months.

what did you do, stoppe deating or started running 8 hrs a day?

I was taking in like 700 calories a day, SOMETIMES a thousand.

Strange, I was never hungry. Though If I had to do it over again, I would go on a cutting routine, I lost alot of muscle taking off weight that fast. Though I'm building myself up again.

 

[AlNom]

how many calories/kJ is one recommended to intake daily

I always figured it was around 2000 calories or around 8 MJ per day.....

 

[sytaylor]

how many calories/kJ is one recommended to intake daily

I always figured it was around 2000 calories or around 8 MJ per day.....

I think for the average man its ~2400 calories, to loose weight you limit those calories and do plenty of aerobic excercise. To gain weight you up the calories but make sure there is plenty of protien and not a large fat increase and do lots of anerobic.

 

[zidane1strife]

IMHO, people should try to avoid the yo-yo, that is going back and forth between lean and fat, it's harmful. They should try to remain at a stable weight, and the best weight is slightly under the normal weight for a particular age/height/sex group. You should try talking with a professional nutritionist, and always remember "moderate caloric restriction with adequate nutrition" is the healthiest possible way of life, anything else and your not living up to your full potential.

 

[hey69]

start doing bodybuilding and at least 2 times hot meal a day with lots of meat and /or chicken/ tuna fish.

I gained 4 kilos in 1 month
i'm 1.80m went from 92 > 96 kg
i'm gonna start my diet now, to burn some fat :?

 

[Sonic]

Blah, all that ideal weight talk is a buch of BS depending on who you ask (doctors and experts). What is much more important is body fat percentage. I'm 5' 9" and weigh 170 lbs. My body fat percentage is 10% right now.

If you work out in the gym then you would know bulking and cutting are very effective at what they do. Bulking is for gaining muscle but you will almost always gain fat with it too. Cutting is lowering your caloric intake to the point where you lose fat but retain your muslces. Some people say it's hard to do, but those are the guys/gals who can't control what they eat at all times.

I could give so much advice when it comes to building muslces. In the beginning it is so very easy to do so but once you hit that first plateau it can get quite annoying and it is very easy to lose confidence. I am not a bodybuilder in the sense that I'm a huge muscle freak. My body is at the level and shape I want it to be at so I just maintain it but still go to the gym three times a week. I love the "pump" I get and it's all good.

When trying to gain or lose weight nutrition is the most important part. Get yourself on a diet that is good for you. I dislike Atkins for the simple reasons that I think it is an easy way out. That's for losing weight though. If you want to gain weight then do it the right way and do it in a healthy way. If you just want some muscle definition then calisthenics can provide that after a couple weeks of doing it. If you want nice shape with some medium sized muscles then hit the gym or get yourself a bench and some freeweights.

Nothing really beats free weights, that's my opinion. Protein is important too.

Protein is the vital part of gaining muscle mass. Carbs are essential too in the sense that you need glycogen and all that jazz.

Paul, do you lift frequently?

 

[Paul]

Paul, do you lift frequently?

I'm on a 4 day split, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday.

Plus I do cardio, isometrics, forearm work, gripping, stretching work every day.

It's all for martial arts(JKD) but the boost in muscle size is a plus of course, though my goals are all strength related.

 

[Tahir2]

This is a great thread.. very informative indeed for me. I way even less than Deepak and I am taller than him... 5'6 weighing approx 7 and half stones or about 47kg... fluctuating between 7 and 7 and a half stones.

Most I have ever weighed is 8 stone when I tried to go on a force feed diet but I couldnt stomach it (no pun intended) a few years ago.

Thanks Paul now I know what I am.. an ECTOMOROPH - sounds kinda cool. Anyways good luck Deepak, and throw some my way too cos I've decided to try and put some weight on again.

 

[zidane1strife]

Blah, all that ideal weight talk is a buch of BS depending on who you ask (doctors and experts). What is much more important is body fat percentage. I'm 5' 9" and weigh 170 lbs. My body fat percentage is 10% right now.

If you work out in the gym then you would know bulking and cutting are very effective at what they do. Bulking is for gaining muscle but you will almost always gain fat with it too. Cutting is lowering your caloric intake to the point where you lose fat but retain your muslces. Some people say it's hard to do, but those are the guys/gals who can't control what they eat at all times.

I agree ideal weight is bs, but moderate cr is still tops. Exercise, doesn't provide its full benefits, even when it lowers body fat below 10%. Even gene-modified organisms with below 10% body fat do not receive the full benefits(they receive around half).

You want to be an 80+ year with the blood pressure of a 10yr old, the triglyceride profile better than a 20 year old, cholesterol profile in the top 98th percentile of the population(that is hdl supah high/ ldl supah low), glucose/insulin levels a third that of the average man?(as seen on a study on individuals practicing CR for at least three years prior) Moderate cr with adequate nutrition is the way to go. Insulin has been linked to aging, it seems to be influencing the rate of aging, mutations involving receptors, and production of it, can more than double the lifespan in many species.

I've heard one common factor amongst centenarians is lower than usual fasting insuling/glucose. Caloric restriction, a highly tested means of extending lifespan in many species, lowers fasting insulin/glucose, and increases insulin sensitivity(the opposite of resistance, making it virtually impossible to develop diabetes).

Lower serum glucose and low insulin levels are among the dramatic biomarkers of slower aging in calorie-restricted animals. This effect very likely applies to humans. A massive National Institute of Health study has already established that older men with the lowest insulin are the healthiest. Low-normal blood sugar generally goes hand-in-hand with healthy-range blood lipids.

The truth cannot be denied...

http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/85/98784.htm

In the small study comparing people who practice calorie restriction as a lifestyle with those who ate a more typical Western diet, the calorie-restricted group had dramatically reduced risks of heart disease and diabetes. Researchers reported that their risk factors were so low they were comparable to those of people who were much younger.

I was astounded by the comments of some centenarians about their 90s, sex, work, sports, like usual no prob... This is the difference of an adequate diet, compared to a regular western diet. Darn, I just read that and I asked myself: WHY? Why is the public denied the truth? A moderate cr with adequate nutrition should be the espoused diet of the usda.... but I know why it is, this wouldn't be too good for many industries, like medical services and food companies.



EDITED

A few more quotes, from different articles on the same study.

"These people are definitely protected against the major killers," said John O. Holloszy of Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, who led the study, released online yesterday. "It should definitely increase longevity."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...;contentId=A25564-2004Apr19&notFound=true

Triglyceride levels — which, when elevated, can lead to atherosclerosis — were even more impressive in the calorie restriction group: They were lower than more than 95 percent of Americans in their twenties, despite the fact that the study participants’ ages ranged from 35 to 82.

http://mednews.wustl.edu/medadmin/PAnews.nsf/0/F76B2638BDB6CAE786256E76005D51F6

PS I recently bought the scientific american most recent special issue "science of staying young", and while I've not fully read it yet, it goes pretty much hand in hand witth the other stuff I've read. Though, they do miss a few details here and there, I recommend it, it's a nice review for those in the know, and an excellent starter for those new to the field. It's just $6 bucks, so come on, it's more than worth it.

 

[Sonic]

Hey, there can be hundreds of studies that support evidence for completely opposing sides. I'm not going to go full into it but take my friend's great grandmom. 104 and she still eats like a horse. Granted, she's Italian and cooks all her own food the old fashioned way. I guess she just has good genetics, but her will to live is beyond compare and that most assuredly has something to do with it.

In the future the scientific community will produce products/drugs/whatever to prolong life for a long time. When this will happen is up in argument, but I'm sure it will happen one day.