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You know what, there may have been faults, there may have been overheating, but comon sense should tell anyone except complete idiots and ******s that it´s not a issue. If it was there would have been more that one site (that makes page 3 girls look like economic news) that would have reported it.
Everyone is after Sony, it´s the fashion, who actually gives a fuck about how good the PS3 seems to be, lets go after the sensation (omg 3 tits!) instead of the actual interesting stuff. So who the fuck really believes it would have gone unnoticed?
The 360 is so far the least reliable Console produced, the games are not the sum of the 360 parts (including the stupid external PSU, who said omg HURRY!), and yet it has had the easiet time on the net i can remember, the XBOX that had actual interesting games (and a design done by a blind lightpole) had it more rough yet it fullfilled more of it´s promise in the same timespawn compared to the 360.
"You know what, there may have been faults, there may have been overheating, but comon sense should tell anyone except complete idiots and ******s that it´s not a issue."
Only complete idiots and ******s would ignore this news especially about a launch product. I bought an xbox360 and the red rings of death didn't keep me from buying one. But those stories convinced me to buy a service plan, which I had to use last thursday. I'd advise any who buys a launch product especially consoles to purchase a service plan, which for those who do, don't need to worry about faulty PS3es since they can simply get them replace for free.
"The 360 is so far the least reliable Console produced, the games are not the sum of the 360 parts (including the stupid external PSU, who said omg HURRY!), and yet it has had the easiet time on the net i can remember, the XBOX that had actual interesting games (and a design done by a blind lightpole) had it more rough yet it fullfilled more of it´s promise in the same timespawn compared to the 360."
statistical evidence? "Stupid external PSU"? Yeah I get annoyed with it also everytime I look behind my TV next to my large surge protector. What promises has the xbox360 failed to fullfill in its 10 1/2 month lifespan.
How does someone complain about the bashing of one product then move right into bashing another product within the same post?
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Somehow, I'm not too worried about these "reports".
The PS2 had similar reports, guess what, I bought one on launch day and it's still working 100%
The PSP had similar reports, guess what, I bought one near launch and have had xero problems with that.
I'm sure PSOne had similar reports then too, only I didn't actively read the internet "news" then. I bought it at launch, and guess what, it continued to function a year or two after I'd replaced it with the PS2 and given it to my brother.
Manufacturing these products is no black magic.
Sure, they feature new tech, powerful new processors etc, but do you think reliability of these components is not one of the design goals? Do you really believe they push the processes to their absolute limits just to get these things out and explode at peoples homes (oops, well there could be some unnoticed errors in manufacturing line, but they are relatively rare and not there by design and knowingly put there)
I think the companies putting these out actually know how to manufacture one and make it reliable enough as a consumer entertainment electronics device.
Especially those companies that have a long history in hardware manufacturing.
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The PS2 had similar reports, guess what, I bought one on launch day and it's still working 100%
The PSP had similar reports, guess what, I bought one near launch and have had xero problems with that.
I'm sure PSOne had similar reports then too, only I didn't actively read the internet "news" then. I bought it at launch, and guess what, it continued to function a year or two after I'd replaced it with the PS2 and given it to my brother.
Manufacturing these products is no black magic.
Sure, they feature new tech, powerful new processors etc, but do you think reliability of these components is not one of the design goals? Do you really believe they push the processes to their absolute limits just to get these things out and explode at peoples homes (oops, well there could be some unnoticed errors in manufacturing line, but they are relatively rare and not there by design and knowingly put there)
I think the companies putting these out actually know how to manufacture one and make it reliable enough as a consumer entertainment electronics device.
Especially those companies that have a long history in hardware manufacturing.
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We've had developers post here that the PS3 does not run hot even over a prolonged period of operation, and that they are stable. This thread is nothing but utter bullshit and should be locked.
You would think all that you are saying is true. However, looking at Sony's battery issue should allow you to realize that every company has to deal with variables that can promote compromisation of quality. Companies compromise quality to meet deadlines all the time. Companies compromise quality because of lack of investment into robust QA and QC system all the time. Even then no QA and QC system is full proof and sometimes major issues crop up.
However, most of the units at TGS were test units, not retail-build PS3, running a bunch of "production build" software running in an un-natural enviroment. Therefore, one can't conclude doom and gloom but one can't assume everything is fine either. We won't know until after launch and then we going to have to wade through all the anecdotal evidence before we know if the PS3 is of quality.
You think an sample of opinions from the devs who post here is large of enough to make a good assessment of the quality of the PS3. Just because Sony reps says it might or might not be the heat does mean the issue could have not been from another issue. "Production build" software could of been the result and not the fault of the PS3 hardware itself. This topic is just as revelant as any other.
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If the 360 had a Sony badge imagine the bitching, but no.
I'm wondering why people are assuming the system is overheating at all... I mean I saw 2 PS3s lockup on Friday (one running Motorstorm the other GT:HD), and there wasn't any indication that the unit was overheating (hell it was quite cold in the studio and there wasn't any significant amount of heat being expelled by the unit). I attributed it to buggy game builds causing lockups.
I'm wondering why with everything else Sony is doing for the PS3 launch why the hell they wouldn't have had a refrigerated environment to keep the units cool in.
Expensive, yes; but a lot cheaper than the bad publicity of wonky behavior that you KNOW WILL HAPPEN will cause.
Expensive, yes; but a lot cheaper than the bad publicity of wonky behavior that you KNOW WILL HAPPEN will cause.
I'm wondering why with everything else Sony is doing for the PS3 launch why the hell they wouldn't have had a refrigerated environment to keep the units cool in.
Expensive, yes; but a lot cheaper than the bad publicity of wonky behavior that you KNOW WILL HAPPEN will cause.
Probably because of incident by itself is of no real consquence but taking in with everything else (Cell yields, delays, shortage of diodes because of production problems and battery recalls) it becomes a part of the large publicity nightmare especially on the internet where we the posters are the flies and Sony woes become the "s@#$".
I'm wondering why with everything else Sony is doing for the PS3 launch why the hell they wouldn't have had a refrigerated environment to keep the units cool in.
Expensive, yes; but a lot cheaper than the bad publicity of wonky behavior that you KNOW WILL HAPPEN will cause.
If it wasn't a heat problem then it wouldn't have done much good. I imagine Sony did everything they could (within reason) to make sure the test units wouldn't be adversely affected by things within their control (enclosure temp being one of them).
As archie said, software could very likely be the cause for lockups (and somewhat believable/expected, considering it was a lot of early/non-final software). Regardless, it obviously wasn't a huge issue, or we'd have heard reports it about it all over forums and by the major gaming news sites. I'd be surprised if PS3s didn't crash, but it seems odd that they were singled out and made seem like there was some design flaw when there isn't any evidence to support such a claim. It's hard to avoid manufactured bad publicity -- you can't do anything to stop people from spinning stuff negatively if that's what they want to do. Good news can easily turn into bad news in the right (wrong) hands.
Is Motorstorm a launch title? If so, would it not be "gold" by now and be in full production?
Games usually go "gold" a month before, so it should have at least 10 days left. Plus, the build that was at TGS is probably not the same build that about to go gold.
Because there was a picture of some guy pointing a fan in the general direction of a PS3. So you know, conclusive proof right there
Yeah because, there's never been any bitching about the 360 breaking.
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nelg said:
Dunno off the top of my head, but it was marked as 60% complete (which either means an emphatic "no", or the build was just "really old"). Considering it wasn't playable at E3 and only 60% on the demo on friday (using the motion controller I might add), leads me to suspect the software running as the more plausible culprit.
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THANK YOU! I soooo needed that today...
Firewarrior
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kinda missed something vital
Yeah that lol
Of course it would overheat you wouldn't have 200 PS3's at home cuddled together or would you?
Yeah that lol
Of course it would overheat you wouldn't have 200 PS3's at home cuddled together or would you?
I love hosting LAN parties and I'll surely have 200 PS3, no scratch that, make it 500! If the machine can't handle the heat, screw it, I ain't buying one!
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But not huddled together just 1m apart I'm sure the cables or the wireless will reach lol
