Gabe Newell: Valve will release its own console-like PC

Looks very good! Great! Looking forward to test this...I guess that this pad will also be available for standard gaming PCs...

Yeah I presume Steambox will support multiple controllers hence they will have to sell the controller separately. I'll get one and use it along with the 360 controller on pc, gives me the best of both worlds.
 
Yeah I presume Steambox will support multiple controllers hence they will have to sell the controller separately. I'll get one and use it along with the 360 controller on pc, gives me the best of both worlds.

Yeah, exactly my thoughts...X360+Steampad+K/M(only for competitive FPS online gaming)...perfect!
 
Sort of related
The Ice Emulator is a homebrew project to allow gamers to be able to play emulated console games through Steam to take advantage of Steam's Big Picture mode. The game's GitHub repository has files, details, legal details, and more, including instructions on what emulators are required and how ROM support works. Currently this supports NES, SNES, N64. GameCube, PS1, PS2, Genesis, Gameboy, and GBA, and they are working on support for Wii, Dreamcast, and DS
https://github.com/scottrice/Ice
http://scottrice.github.io/Ice/
 
Phoronix benchmarks are half a dozen free games that all run on the Quake 3 engine, maybe some of them with pixel shaders and post-processing tacked on.
That makes them a bit weak. In fact if what you want is limited retro-gaming and open source games, then yes the open source drivers can work well enough for that. You can run Counterstrike 1.6 fine for instance, warcraft III in wine etc. and try to work up from there. But to go neck-to-neck with the consoles (both new and old) that's a hard proposition.

Do you know any better benchmarks to run?
 
Steam Machine sneak peek
Valve will ship 300 prototype Steam Machines to beta testers this year, and there's nothing particularly special about their specs. That’s kind of the point, though: the first Steam Machine is a computer that can fit bog standard parts just like a full-size gaming rig, and yet fit into your entertainment center. Valve's steel and aluminum chassis measures just over 12 inches on a side and is 2.9 inches tall, making it a little bigger than an Xbox 360 and smaller than any gaming PC of its ilk. And yet the box manages to fit a giant Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan graphics card and a full desktop CPU — and keep those parts quiet and cool — without cramming them in like a jigsaw puzzle.
 
Man, that form factor + steam + controller = win. Assuming reasonable pricing of course. I'm looking forward to even smaller streaming clients though. Those should hopefully come in dirt cheap.
 
I find the part about "taylored APUS" parts quite interesting, pretty much Valve stated that they can't say becore january.
Let see. Cheaper CW parts would be neat, gddr5 powered kavri would be neat too.

EDIT
I was speaking of that part of the interview:
There will be a number of different Steam Machine boxes on sale in 2014, and Valve expects them to arrive mid-year. Some of those boxes will be far smaller and / or cheaper than Valve's own prototype unit. "You can get far smaller, and that's what many OEMs are doing… I think it's safe to say less than a quarter of the size," the team told me.
Of course, when they get to that size, they won’t be using full-size graphics cards any more. Intel's integrated graphics are a possibility there: "We're super interested in Iris Pro." When I ask whether Intel or AMD might make special chips to bring down the price of truly powerful integrated graphics, the room goes quiet for a moment. "We don’t have an answer that we can give you before January," the team answers.
Dues credits to the Verge.
 
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It doesn't need to be more versatile, just better for certain genres like FPS and RTS which it obviously is. The PC will support the XB1 controller (and DS4) as well so you simply use the best controller for the best game.

I'm sorry, there's no way I want to play a FPS or RTS with that Steam controller. No way. And I say this as an avid player of Dota 2 and StarCraft 2. Just... no.

I'd rather use a DS3 or DS4 and emulate the mouse and buttons with the analog sticks and face buttons and such. And I know I don't want to do that either.

Any honest player can attest that the Steam controller is in no way presenting a better medium to play... let's say... almost all games over a practical controller like the DS4. Which frankly has more functions as well.

It's just different. That in no way makes it better.

I agree with Cjail. By the time it comes out people will realize it's not all that.

I've seen the video demostration of the new controller
I was sceptical
then I've got interested
then wtf?
It's still worst than keyboard + mouse in the video, and looks no much better than a modern console controller

No kidding. People have to realize that new does not equate to better, and neither does different equate to better.

That they are advertising a controller that blends the function of a keyboard and mouse and makes a "better" controller than current ones at the same time should already raise a huge red flag.

A red flag like realizing that "it's probably not possible" to achieve that goal... should hit more people in due time.

Are people really looking for an input medium that is equally difficult to function as a keyboard and mouse, and no better or worse at being a controller at the same time... and then celebrate it? Lol...
 
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I'm hoping they will explain how drivers will be handled as that seems what is most likely to break games, where new drivers render old games incompatible and/or cause weird issues. With Windows they didn't have much choice, but with Linux would it be possible to keep multiple sets of video drivers, etc, all installed and a game just loads the version of whatever drivers it needs that it was tested with? That way a game can be fully tested with whatever set of drivers and work perfectly fine even 10 years from now as long as those drivers are installed on the steam box. I'm not sure how else they can achieve console simplicity without resolving that first.
 
Interesting device, the price is reasonable. PC with that type of specs are way costlier.
Now it makes me wonder about the answer they gave on the topic of "custom" APU: we can't say anything before January 2014 (iirc).
 
I hope they store a couple of each box so they can FedEx one to a developer who's game encounters a hardware configuration specific bug.
 
That light would get seriously aggravating to those that play in a dark room! Otherwise it looks cool. Price is decent at $499 but that's probably their low end machine with an amd 270 in it, I'm curious what they will price the versions with a stronger gpu in there.
 
How does that compare performance-wise with the PS4 and X1?

A smaller company probably doesn't get the cost advantages of Sony or Microsoft. So can they produce more performance at a given price point?

Of course, the smaller company isn't going to put money into R&D, service and support, marketing, etc. so maybe they could match or exceed, as far as raw HW performance.

Valve though has to bring in more publishers to support the Steam OS platform and that takes money.
 
Valve though has to bring in more publishers to support the Steam OS platform and that takes money.

They can make terms for early adopters more favorable, in the same way provinces like Quebec stole many game development companies from various USA cities. So if Valve was really aggressive they could reduce their cut of sales to 0% for the companies that support SteamOS in the early days.
 
I already posted this in another thread, but here's it is. The first official Steam machine:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/25/5146398/ibuypower-steam-machine-499-radeon-r9-270

- AMD CPU (undisclosed)
- R9 270 (900MHz Pitcairn)
- Smaller than Xbone, larger than PS4
- WiFi, Bluetooth
- 500GB HDD
- Steam controller bundled in the package

All for $499. Of course, being a Steam Box, there's no Windows.

I find it curious that they don't mention how much system RAM will be included. The pessimistic side of me wonders if they skimped on it due to be a Linux machine and only went with 2 GB, though 4 GB is far more likely.

Regards,
SB
 
I find it curious that they don't mention how much system RAM will be included. The pessimistic side of me wonders if they skimped on it due to be a Linux machine and only went with 2 GB, though 4 GB is far more likely.

Regards,
SB

A minimum of 4 is a given IMO but hopefully even this model is packing at least 6GB.
 
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