Why is that? Despite the relatively lower specs, the Wii seems to be perfectly capable of playing and allowing the enjoyment of those genres. I think the question is more if those types of games will show up on the Wii, and that currently is not something that is easily predictable.
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Why is that? Despite the relatively lower specs, the Wii seems to be perfectly capable of playing and allowing the enjoyment of those genres. I think the question is more if those types of games will show up on the Wii, and that currently is not something that is easily predictable.
Fixed. Actually it applies to all businesses. That's the end of discussion for me as well.
Well, that is where we disagree. The figures that were presented were January figures, hence the context of monthly sales. Considering this with that the statement is true in this context, and false in the other, I am the kind of person that assumes the former is intended.
I agree that there is a line that can be crossed, but I'm willing to venture a guess that Sony is more often on the receiving end of that line than vice versa.
[qupte]I'm really sorry about that, and I apologize for my less than tactful tone, which is provoked by what I see as desperate spinning unfit of someone I generally can have an honest disagreement with.[/quote]
Accepted, but let's keep our cool and try to read each others words carefully, so that our discussions stay focussed on the actual disagreement.
The words "I was wrong" are indeed some of the hardest to type and pronounce in the English language.
For my part, I do think I myself may have underestimated how well the DS would do, but then the DS is actually dead now, and when I considered the PSPs chances, the DS Lite didn't exist yet. My issue with your comment is simply that you overlooked that we actually agree on this point, which, if you had read my posts more carefully, you would have been able to pick up on in no less than two posts.
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6 million is horrible for a console.
What is your basis for that assumption?
If you had written partially different demographic, i wouldn´t be askíng.
DUALDISASTER
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It's acturally selling similar to ps3 with aproxmity 250000 a month.
scooby_dooby
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Well I think there's some crossover, but in general it's going to appeal to a different type of gamer than 360 or PS3.
For a business, GC hands down. Xbox is a billion dollar loss. Few entities can sustain that.
Wii can still gain on Xbox despite the latter's huge investment in brand building.
scooby_dooby
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Because Nintendo themselves are concentrating on shorter simpler games, Silicon Knights has stated that explicitly. So right there, you're not going to have the 1st party titles like Halo, Gears, MGS, SOCOM, Gran Turismo, Forza etc etc. No big hitters in those genres at all.
Also, the system is geared towards much less complex games, even the control scheme is very very basic, so developers will naturally focus on games that take advantage of that. What you'll end up with is totally different game libraries, sprinkled with some cashin ports from EA and Ubisoft.
Agreed, profit-wise, GC killed xbox. However I think most unpartial gamers would give the edge to xbox1.
Nope... just as a business. As long as you make money and have positive cash flow, you're good and can figure out the next move as you go. The investment in brand building is acknowledged, but it won't be able to stop Nintendo Wii.
MS is pursuing the "Market Share is King" strategy for Xbox. It failed in its first attempt (Xbox). It may succeed in making money for its second attempt, but then Wii is already profitable ?
I agree.
I think some of the waving games will appeal more to kids in the same way as some of the eyetoy games that are geared more toward a younger audience.
I have already heard several stories from parents who feel appealed by the Wii because you are not just sitting passively when playing, meaning more fit children or whatever.
Read my previous post again. I said as a business. As a gamer, who cares about profitability of the company (Do you care if Sony sell PS3 at US$299) ? The cheaper the better, the more games the better.
Really that is rather sad then. I suppose they are trying to evolve the home console experience they're offering so that it matches that of their handheld console then. I'm not quite sure it'll be what many people are looking for in the way that the PSP bringing the home console to handheld is not exactly as attractive as the DS offering a different experience.
Patsu - not to be a jerk but my original post that you "fixed" was not talking about business or profitability.
my original post said:
Patsu-fixed said:
I was looking at it from the perspective of a games console.
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I agree.
I think some of the waving games will appeal more to kids in the same way as some of the eyetoy games that are geared more toward a younger audience.
I have already heard several stories from parents who feel appealed by the Wii because you are not just sitting passively when playing, meaning more fit children or whatever.
I disagree. Everyone I know that purchased a Wii was a hardcore gamer for the PC, PS2 or Xbox. The only difference is now their girlfriends have some games to play with them, rather than game time being an exclusive activity. If you think the Wii is selling well because older parents, who haven't been gaming over the last 20 years, are buying it, you're kidding yourself. Maybe the focus of the games has changed, and it is attracting some new people, but I think it's mostly the same pool of people buying - people who have previously owned consoles.
Huh ? My post said "Fixed. Actually it applies to all businesses." You quoted it below yourself.
What is the perspective of a game console ? The more the merrier ? This is dotcom mentality. It is *not* difficult to make something that sells well at a loss. I look forward to more interesting moves from Wii.sigh - Patsu, I agreed with you from a profit perspective (which you introduced) GC was a success compared to Xbox. However from a gamer perspective, which I originally brought up, xbox was considered more successful.
I look forward to more interesting moves from Wii.
As I'm sure you know (but for some reason seem to be ignoring), userbase ties into an important aspect from the gamers perspective: games selection. Do me a favor before you laugh at me again and let me know which had a larger library of games between xb1 and gc.
Off the top of my head I count GTA series for starters...
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djskribbles
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unless i'm reading your post wrong, you think they only shipped 100,000 units since launch, to Canada? i'm aware that the US is a larger market than Canada, simply because of population, but i highly doubt the difference in units shipped to each country is that large. i'm guessing, at most, the US got 1.2m and the rest of N/A (Canada and Mexico) got at least 300,000 since launch. i really doubt theres ~400k PS3's sitting on shelves across the US...