Extra Port on the Revolution?

london-boy said:
I haven't, care to elaborate? I'm actually interested. Doesn't USB2 have pretty much the same bandwidth as Firewire, in real world efficiency?
No it doesn't. Real world is closer to about 200Mbps rather than the quoted peak 480Mbps.

I have compared DV between USB and Firewire using the same Sony DV camera and USB2 introduced drop frames and a reduction in quality.

Edit to make this post on topic: Optical Out.
 
The image is from an older prototype and if you have seen the book that Nintendo send to the graduate people you can see how this port has disappeared.

In the Virtual Console patent exist a paragraphs where it talks about the possibility of connecting the Revolution to a PC and upload and/or download content from the PC, the idea seems discarded for now.
 
Urian said:
In the Virtual Console patent exist a paragraphs where it talks about the possibility of connecting the Revolution to a PC and upload and/or download content from the PC, the idea seems discarded for now.

Well that makes sense because with WiFi you can upload/download from any PC on a wireless network so you don't necessarily need a port. Of course for people who don't have a wireless LAN they'd have to buy a WiFi NIC or USB version for their their PC to connect to Revolution. The USB WiFi adapter from Buffalo for Nintendo would fit the bill.

book that Nintendo send to the graduate people

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NANOTEC said:
Well that makes sense because with WiFi you can upload/download from any PC on a wireless network so you don't necessarily need a port. Of course for people who don't have a wireless LAN they'd have to buy a WiFi NIC or USB version for their their PC to connect to Revolution. The USB WiFi adapter from Buffalo for Nintendo would fit the bill.

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Yes. Is this.

Another thing that I want to comment is that Revolution has a metalic box made of magnesium like some of notebooks like the Toshiba Portege M300.
 
book that Nintendo send to the graduate people
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That link
http://www.revogaming.net/html/modules/news/article.php?storyid=248

And specific image is that one :
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Power, Video Out, and USB.
No sight of a sensor bar connector...
 
Urian said:
Yes. Is this.

Another thing that I want to comment is that Revolution has a metalic box made of magnesium like some of notebooks like the Toshiba Portege M300.

Magnesium? Best not get it wet!
 
I think he means Magnesium alloy. Magnesium's not a problem with water IIRC as the oxide formed with reaction to air prevents the reaction. Magnesium is kept in oil in chemistry labs for when the professor wants to impress his students. Magesum is readible available as metal pencil sharpeners from Germany, and you can light them with a gas flame and get some very intense combustion going as a friend of mine is keen to demonstrate at every opportunity. Which goes to show if Rev was made out of magnesium, it'd just end up an expensive pyrotechnic for some people!
 
Urian said:
The image is from an older prototype and if you have seen the book that Nintendo send to the graduate people you can see how this port has disappeared.
There's nothing that says the images in that book is more recent than any others. Rather, the odd colors on the casings shown in that pic says to me they're just prototype mockups or such, and the presence or not of any "mystery port" says exactly nothing at all to wether we'll also see it on production Revs.
 
Urian said:
Yes. Is this.

Another thing that I want to comment is that Revolution has a metalic box made of magnesium like some of notebooks like the Toshiba Portege M300.

That's pretty crazy. The reason why magnesium is used for the lids on notebooks is because magnesium is very strong for protection of the LCD yet very light for portability. It's lighter than aluminum but relatively expensive too. I wonder why Nintendo went ahead with using it. It's not like people are going to be carrying it around in an attache to use on the bus. I just hope they don't price it really high just because of that. I guess they don't want it too look cheap like the GC by using plastic.
 
Magnesium is more expensive than aluminum, per pound, but if you consider it's also 37% lighter, then the same volume of magnesium comes out cheaper. Right now aluminum goes for about $1.10 per pound, and magnesium $1.40 per pound. The same volume of magnesium occupied by 1 lb of aluminum would cost you $.90.

Many electronics require a faraday cage for UL listing, so why not do away with the plastic shell and make the thing out of metal? I think it would look hella cool.
 
OtakingGX said:
Magnesium is more expensive than aluminum, per pound, but if you consider it's also 37% lighter, then the same volume of magnesium comes out cheaper. Right now aluminum goes for about $1.10 per pound, and magnesium $1.40 per pound. The same volume of magnesium occupied by 1 lb of aluminum would cost you $.90.

Many electronics require a faraday cage for UL listing, so why not do away with the plastic shell and make the thing out of metal? I think it would look hella cool.

Wow that's pretty interesting about the pricing. Of course you're comparing it to aluminum. A faraday cage doesn't need to be made of aluminum though. It could be made of zinc coated thin steel sheet metal like the chassis of a lot of the cheap PC cases. Weight shouldn't be an issue because you won't be carrying the Revolution with you to use on the bus. Anyway as long as the magnesium doesn't raise the price significantly, I won't complain.:smile:
 
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OtakingGX said:
Many electronics require a faraday cage for UL listing, so why not do away with the plastic shell and make the thing out of metal?
And how exactly would we get a wifi/bluetooth signal penetrating a faraday cage for wireless data communication? ;)
 
Guden Oden said:
And how exactly would we get a wifi/bluetooth signal penetrating a faraday cage for wireless data communication? ;)
Well, typically you put your wireless antennae outside your faraday cage. Build one into a bevel or molding or something.
 
I've been wondering about the placement of the vent and fan.

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Could there be vents on the bottom of the case in the above pic.

Would having a metallic case have any affect on heat dissipation?
 
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I don't think cooling will be an issue so what material the case is made of has little significance. I also think there will be intake vents somewhere, that much is obvious. Wherever they choose to place the vents must take into consideration horizontal and vertical placement of the console. If you look at a laptop computer, You will notice there are a few vents in different locations and they need not be gaping holes. Also look at the Mac Mini.
 
london-boy said:
I haven't, care to elaborate? I'm actually interested. Doesn't USB2 have pretty much the same bandwidth as Firewire, in real world efficiency?
real world efficenc I don't know, but on the paper:

usb1 11mbits
firewire 400mbits

usb2 480mbits
firewire "800" 800mbits

or something.

But it's not firewire, bottom right corner should be "cut" too then.
 
hupfinsgack said:
Supposedly Rev has no ethernet port, only WiFi.
Which... IMHO... is retarded. While built-in WiFi is excellent, there's a reason gamers WANT the hard line.

Ah well... I can't imagine them RESTRICTING anyone from using a USB ethernet adaptor, so they save a buck-or-so per console and anyone who really wants it can pick up their own.
 
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