Evolution of FPS Renderers
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And since it's resurrected, Turok should have been included as well. It was the first fps I remember which had no loading times between levels, also very good looking for its time. It also had some effects which achieved the looks of shaders, but I don't know what the tricks exactly were.
Love_In_Rio
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Talking about an outstanding 3d engine i would like to mention "F29 retaliator" that appeared in 1989. All written in assembler and was the first game of DID ( after that came EF2000, the best flighting simulator to date IMO ). It was in a 720 kb diskette and how it run in my 25 mhz 286! that was smoothness!.
Another great 3d engine was the one from "Severance: Blade of darkness", with its dinamic shadow and fluid system gave Quake 3 a run for its money IMO. It appeared in 2000 and was made by "Rebel act studios". Still nowadays looks great:
http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blade2007010513505485by3.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blade2007010513502698fo8.jpg
Another great 3d engine was the one from "Severance: Blade of darkness", with its dinamic shadow and fluid system gave Quake 3 a run for its money IMO. It appeared in 2000 and was made by "Rebel act studios". Still nowadays looks great:
http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blade2007010513505485by3.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blade2007010513502698fo8.jpg
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F29 Retaliator certainly was nice.
I first ran it on a 9.54 MHz XT with a VGA card. Because of the clever renderer (I believe it used unchained mode, very fast polygon filling in VGA mode anyway), it was actually quite playable.
However, it didn't quite match up to the Amiga version.
I first ran it on a 9.54 MHz XT with a VGA card. Because of the clever renderer (I believe it used unchained mode, very fast polygon filling in VGA mode anyway), it was actually quite playable.
However, it didn't quite match up to the Amiga version.
Woops, sorry about that. I think it came up as a related topic when i was creating a post and decided to reply without checking the last post date.
Freak'n Big Panda
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Does Morrowind get a point for being the first game released to make use of DX8.0 pixel shaders? Granted it wasn't really impressive in any other way, but pixel shaders! I remember being very impressed with the water back in the day.
SuperCow said:
That's nothing. IIRC the Descent engine allowed to different "rooms" to occupy the same XYZ coordinate space yet be logically distinct!
Not strictly true. Whilst it was like this on a default installation, there was a console setting that could be made to change this to every pixel if desired.
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P69
I think this is the case w/ "doorways" in many engines; they're sort of linked lists that let you see into the next node but traversing back "out" from the node through the same doorway could point you to a totally different room. I wasn't particularly impressed w/ the portals that were touted for "Prey" since they're more or less floating implementations of the "doorway" concept.
I believe Quake 1 also had a special case for very small triangles (less than 16 pixels wide).
Triangles under an angle nearly parallel to the camera will generally show lots of distortion if you only do a 16th pixel correction. Various early 3d engines have that problem, but Quake 1 doesn't.
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Doom etc. weren't 3D as you couldn't have multiple levels on one X,Y coördinate (i.e. walk under a bridge, later run over it) looks like the technical term is Level-over-Level environment.
The game that cheated 3D into that was Rise of the Triads with it's flying disks, of which they made stairs. All in all more advanced than the Doom engine, yet an evolution of the wolf3d engine.
Carmack and Romero based their work "Catacomb Abyss 3D (prequel to Wolf3D)" on Origin's "Ultima Underworld, the Stygian Abyss" Demo's. Link
What People also forget is that Ultima Underworld was released before Wolfensteind3D.
Doom etc. weren't 3D as you couldn't have multiple levels on one X,Y coördinate (i.e. walk under a bridge, later run over it) looks like the technical term is Level-over-Level environment.
The game that cheated 3D into that was Rise of the Triads with it's flying disks, of which they made stairs. All in all more advanced than the Doom engine, yet an evolution of the wolf3d engine.
Carmack and Romero based their work "Catacomb Abyss 3D (prequel to Wolf3D)" on Origin's "Ultima Underworld, the Stygian Abyss" Demo's. Link
What People also forget is that Ultima Underworld was released before Wolfensteind3D.
wasn't Eternia the first to use Goureaud?
I would like to add Midwinter ('89) to the list of old FPS engines, after all it did have huge fractal landscape and freedom of movement.
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