I'll bet it runs just fine on a single GPU if they optimise/simplify the Bokeh DOF filter. In their UDK the Bokeh DOF reduces my framerate with almost 10x for forest demo vs no Bokeh DOF.
Epic Says This Is What Next-Gen Should Look Like
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I'll bet it runs just fine on a single GPU if they optimise/simplify the Bokeh DOF filter. In their UDK the Bokeh DOF reduces my framerate with almost 10x for forest demo vs no Bokeh DOF.
Now that it's leaked anyway, Epic should really give us some direct feed goodness!
Better yet, maybe a tech demo/benchmark! (just wishfull thinking...
)On another note, i'd love to see something like deux ex/blade runner/gta4/mafia futuristic sandbox environment where bwig scawy robots like that could sneak up on the player without noise untill the last moment and go "HALT CITIZEN!" aproaching the player in that intimidating/threatning way shown in the trailer making all sort of pneumatic and electrical motor noises, just because some crime was perpetraded earlier on the area the player happened to passing by (murder, robbery, etc), giving the player more interactivity, on whether co-operate or go rage agains't the machine
Only gta4 so far has managed try to do that level of AI interactivity. Also is rockstar attending GDC? what are those guys up to?
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Deadly Towers
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The shadows look great, but that kind of shadowing is pretty much a solved problem on lesser hardware. A scene with area-light shadows would really show the limitations of current consoles.
I'm also curious about the efficiency with MSAA
I'm also curious about the efficiency with MSAA
yes and so were some monsters in doom2 as well as doom 3, i.e. but theres a huge difference in quality between the two pictures, surely you can see that, its hugely obvious.
(EDIT - i.e. compare the visual result from the rendering not the base models)
Not just the higher res textures
better lighting/shading model
shadows from the lights
higher resolution/AA (prolly rendered at >10MP)
etc
this http://i3.tinypic.com/89qjic3.jpg (taken on a PC so no doubt higher quality than a xbox360 screenshot) is no way comparable in quality to this http://www.bit-tech.net/news_images/unreal_engine_4/ue3_bezerker.jpg (also done with a PC, but as seconds per frame instead of FPS for PCs at the time)
What Im saying is they did NOT deliver on their last promises, so why should ppl believe them this time.
As George bush jr said, "theres a saying texas"
I agree. I can't believe the fawning going on in this topic. I'm of the opinion it should be locked.
maybe but GoW 3 for me is better than that tech modelWow theyve upgraded it heaps heres a shot from 2004,
A way lower polygon count.
Crysis, uncharted, killzone cant hold a candle to these 2004 images
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_god_of_war_3-12358-1708_0007.jpgyes and so were some monsters in doom2 as well as doom 3, i.e. but theres a huge difference in quality between the two pictures, surely you can see that, its hugely obvious.
(EDIT - i.e. compare the visual result from the rendering not the base models)
Not just the higher res textures
better lighting/shading model
shadows from the lights
higher resolution/AA (prolly rendered at >10MP)
etc
this http://i3.tinypic.com/89qjic3.jpg (taken on a PC so no doubt higher quality than a xbox360 screenshot) is no way comparable in quality to this http://www.bit-tech.net/news_images/unreal_engine_4/ue3_bezerker.jpg (also done with a PC, but as seconds per frame instead of FPS for PCs at the time)
What Im saying is they did NOT deliver on their last promises, so why should ppl believe them this time.
As George bush jr said, "theres a saying texas"
So you picked the most horrible screen imaginable (http://i3.tinypic.com/89qjic3.jpg) to compare with.
Really just stop.
That looks like a cutscene.
If fawning was a reason for locking, KZ3 thread shoulda been locked months ago. At least this UE3 demo actually looks remarkable, even if it is an example of next gen.
Here is a good Gears 3 shot of char model: http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/...preview-20101006064714181.html?page=mediaFull
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Kratos model is always that same, there are no LOD changes and he's always in memory.
http://strony.aster.pl/kakarotto/gow3_kratos/gow3_img001.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/kakarotto/gow3_kratos/gow3_img002.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/kakarotto/gow3_kratos/gow3_img003.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/kakarotto/gow3_kratos/gow3_img004.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/kakarotto/gow3_kratos/gow3_img005.jpg
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SedentaryJourney
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You mean that bullshot?
dragonelite
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This is a ingame shot i made from the press multiplayer footage.
More in my post
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1528825&postcount=247
More in my post
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1528825&postcount=247
That UE3 monster model really only stands out due to the lighting. Texture wise and geometry wise it doesn't look better than characters in UT3/Gears of War PC version and other UE3 engine games, some years old. But the lighting that was also present in BS promo Gears of War shots is MIA AFAIK.
For that shot it doesn't look like they did anything other than set up a really nice light rig...which you can do for a promo shot of a single model, but can't do for a game.
I didnt choose that shot, alstrong did (I take it that means youre agreeing with me, theres a huge difference in quality between the two screens, the promise + the reality)
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1531180&postcount=39
Not actual ingame screenshot.
I think Ive proved my case, they havent sofar achieved ingame what was shown in 2004. Thus any new media they show of how the new engine will look like when your playing the games has to be taken with a massive grain of salt based on their trackrecord.
Yes Ild like the unjustified 'fawning' to stop, until we see how it 'really looks like ingame' i.e. not bullshots. If they bring out a product where it actually looks like whats been shown/promised, then fawning can commence again
I have stated before + will state again, any screenshots that are bullshots, should be labled as such.
Why? Since some companies release actual ingame screenshots i.e. they get punished for given a truthful representation. I ask what is wrong with this? honestly what is wrong with wanting the truth?
OK Ive heard ppl here say ppl on beyond3d are smarter + can tell the difference but the reality is different. Many here (including me sometimes) cant tell the difference between ingame + bullshot
Have you considered the other material shown in 2004? - the actual footage of the larger creature stomping around That's clearly run on hardware, and so was the GDC 2011 demo. They've certainly surpassed this in Gears of War 2 (end of the winter vehicle level in the caves), what with the larger environments and not just a single model. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m7T5ay_8DI#t=5m13s
You ought to be comparing bullshot to bullshot really, and running demo to running material.
You also seemed to skip over the Unreal Tournament III screenshot...
Well, you've proven that 2005 hardware can't compete with 2004 bullshots or that a game scenario with a lit environment and other characters to render is nothing compared to a portrait shot... :s
The comparison was between two character models. Unless the texture resolution and poly count have been improved in the Gears 3 shots beyond what is visible in-game, I'd say it's an apt comparison.