ELSA hints GT206 and GT212

[Jawed]

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090707PB203.html

Nvidia expects to launch its new 40nm GeForce GT220 (GT216) and GeForce G210 (GT218) GPUs at the end of September 2009, according to a Chinese-language Commercial Times report citing sources from graphics card makers.

"Low yields on Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company's (TSMC's) 40nm process caused Nvidia to postpone the launch of its 40nm GPU, but recently TSMC's yield rate has started to improve prompting Nvidia to launch the GPUs in time for the year-end holiday sales, added the paper."

 

[DSC]

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_220_us.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g210_us.html

 

[willardjuice]

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_220_us.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g210_us.html

Both list DirectX 10.1 support...

 

[Jawed]

Still says, seemingly erroneously, "16 cores" for the smallest of these.

And the missing GT215 appears to imply that was just a paper launch in mobile form.

Jawed

 

[Kaotik]

Both list DirectX 10.1 support...

Is that some kinda surprise? The mobile parts, based on same chips, already told us that.

 

[no-X]

nVidia isn't in good situation. Should they promote DX10.1 (because it's the only new feature, which this 40nm half-gen introduced) and admit, that their entire desktop product range is somewhat obsolete, or protect sales of desktop products, not to promote DX10.1 and give up the only new marketing/product-selling feature?

 

[kemosabe]

Seems they only needed to promote DX10.1 behind closed doors since according to NVDA management they've already secured a large number of OEM design wins for the notebook market. That should allow them to continue to merrily neglect the feature in the retail desktop space.

 

[willardjuice]

Is that some kinda surprise? The mobile parts, based on same chips, already told us that.

No but it's profound. Nvidia's first desktop DirectX 10.1 products are worth noting.

 

[Jawed]

Buy one here

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...110t_series&a1=Category&v1=Everyday computing

The G210 is $10 cheaper than the HD4350 as an option, or $50 more than Intel integrated graphics.

Jawed

 

[AnarchX]

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...110t_series&a1=Category&v1=Everyday computing

The G210 is $10 cheaper than the HD4350 as an option, or $50 more than Intel integrated graphics.

Jawed

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...+price&v1=Over+$600&series_name=e9150t_series

GT 220: $160 over HD4350, $40 below GTS 250

 

[Tchock]

Edit: whoops brainfart.



HP quotes a build date of July 14 for the G210 systems.


Anyone want to buy one and see what it really is? :smile:

 

[Vincent]

Edit: whoops brainfart.



HP quotes a build date of July 14 for the G210 systems.


Anyone want to buy one and see what it really is? :smile:

Crysis---- 0-4 Fps

 

[neliz]

that G210, isn't that the rebranded G110

16 cores

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g110m_us.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g210_us.html

 

[Kaotik]

that G210, isn't that the rebranded G110

16 cores

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g110m_us.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g210_us.html

16 cores in both, sure, but 210 has 10.1 support (and is made on 40nm process)

 

[rjc]

Kindof messed up report at expreview: Nvidias GT230 to debut in December

Designed for mainstream market, GT230 is said to feature GDDR5/GDDR3 memory, and the number of stream processors may reach 96, or just 64 or 80 ones.

It should probably be the first GT215 based part, which on desktop should be labelled something like GTS2X0 where X=3,4.

 

[Tchock]

GT230 might be male, female, or just bi.

Makes sense that they might want to castrate a bit for yields, since 140/240's performance at bulk OEM prices would leave demand to solutions that use less power and have a smaller TDP instead.

 

[CarstenS]

Do we still want DX10(.1) chips in December?

 

[Kaotik]

Do we still want DX10(.1) chips in December?

If they have nothing else to offer, it's better than no new chips at all for many

 

[rjc]

GT230 might be male, female, or just bi.

Makes sense that they might want to castrate a bit for yields, since 140/240's performance at bulk OEM prices would leave demand to solutions that use less power and have a smaller TDP instead.

Yes not sure what they are planning for the clocks on the desktop but if the 96sp version is aggressively clocked may go close to needing a power adapter. Lower specced models obviously not.

Nvidia are much keener on this in the mobile space where it will go up against the RV740. Like the RV740 only think will go into fairly upmarket models....too much heat and power for the multitude of CULV based stuff coming for the rest of the year.

At the conference call the other day AMD said there would be no DX11 notebook models from them till next year. For laptops with discrete gpu this christmas will have a choice of something like: RV710 vs GT218 (60% of models on sale), RV730 vs GT216 (30% of models) and RV740 vs GT215 (10% of models) with IGP obviously alot more.

 

[Tchock]

GT210M is a really nice improvement across G110M that I think will catch on nicely for the holidays, but GT240M seems to be a really marginal increase even with the enhanced unit count wrt GT130M.

ALUs: 48 // 32
Core: 550//600
Shader: 1210//1400
MEM: 800//1016

Fillrates will benefit, but shader throughput is 1.3x, and total bandwidth is lower

I'd reckon that the Mob 4650 would actually win in this segment, so it's up to prices and driver support. Mob 4670 is outclassed by the GT215 (250M) which is 28W+RAM.

RV740 would have a problem if it still can't do a seamless memory power state transition.



After the GF8600M incident, OEMs have been much less enthusiastic on using midrange mobile GPUs I suppose. The focus is mostly at the lowend discrete market instead, since both run The Sims 3 adequately w/o issues.